Trance: Producing and DJing

[rbet]

Are all trance producers (currently, or have previously been) DJs? Any successful trance producer ('pro', either here on KvR or not) who can't spin a turntable to save his life?

Weird question, I know.

[The Chase]

yes, most producers start out DJ'ing (like myself, though I was more on the DnB side - well I listen to Trance more, but enjoy producing and spinning DnB more).

[rbet]

Dammit.

Maybe I can be the first. I haven't touched a turntable in my life.

[Hunter]

I'm sure there are. I've not a scoobies on the decks but can splurt out the odd good tune nae bother

[The Chase]

Any successful trance producer ('pro', either here on KvR or not) who can't spin a turntable to save his life?

I saw Signum live and he couldn't mix for biscuits!

The tracks were badass though

[atomic_(no)afro]

Typically the way to get known as an artist is to have some sort of "live" showcase of your music. For electronic producers, it's usually DJing in some capacity, but if you come up with a killer live-set instead, you would have a better than average chance at making it. I don't think BT (please let's not make this a "BT sucks" topic) has DJed much in the last few years, and yet he's extremely well known (less for Trance and more for Breakz, but you get the idea).

So my advice, come up with some live-work that you can perform, then you won't have to worry about DJing.

ATA

[The Chase]

Typically the way to get known as an artist is to have some sort of "live" showcase of your music. For electronic producers, it's usually DJing in some capacity, but if you come up with a killer live-set instead, you would have a better than average chance at making it. I don't think BT (please let's not make this a "BT sucks" topic) has DJed much in the last few years, and yet he's extremely well known (less for Trance and more for Breakz, but you get the idea).

So my advice, come up with some live-work that you can perform, then you won't have to worry about DJing.

ATA

Bingo, especially in the current world of piracy where you wont make that much money (Though im blending fame with fortune here) outside of live sets and that artists who's live sets are all unique and differnet form their releases are the most succesful - namely miss kittin and new sasha - zowie!

[rounser]

DJing is most useful to production in that it gives you a knowledge of how to make a track DJ-friendly, but that's hardly rocket science: just put in a few phrases of percussion and weebly noises building up or breaking down at the start and end respectively like you hear in almost every track out there, and you're done.

It does bring a sense of perspective though; successful DJs seem to work inside quite narrow parameters of what is acceptable for them to play, and so it's probably an advantage to understand where they're coming from in that respect. Again, nothing you couldn't pick up by listening to a few sets though.

Apart from cheese, I think that the biggest disconnect between DJs and producers comes from those huge breakdowns with no percussion at all in trance and hardcore. Even just a closed high-hat tick in the background would be enough to keep the dancers on track, but they're not even given that.

[Ocean Zen]

I'm hoping to get this track releaseed http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... highlight=

I have NEVER DJ'd but do hope to get some tracks released and then perhaps to a Laptop performance with some live filtering etc.