Kick attack sound!
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- KVRAF
- 2356 posts since 30 Sep, 2003 from Sunny Staffordshire
There's probably some saturation going on too. Many of those trance kicks are 909 samples sent through driven filters and stuff. There is a point before distortion where some overdrive induces a lovely midrange boost, where a 909 kick sounds great.
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- KVRAF
- 10597 posts since 13 Jun, 2004 from Alberto Balsam
Simple - grab Camelphatfree and throw the "Compression" slider almost all the way up. Push, using hardware at the time probably just used a compressor with attack and release set to zero, with a very high ratio.3*s wrote:I'd love to know what compressor could distort the signal that much.Chase wrote:ahh, the infamous huge kick. Made famous by Push's "Universal Nation" (badass tune)
no one will believe me but he made it with reverb, a compressor, and a TR-909
To make such a kick, Do this:
-load up a fat, electronic kick or layer up your own.
-send it to a channel, and then on that channel add a reverb. Set the reverb to a short decay/small room (very short/small - or if you find the reverb plug sounds smoother on long decays, select a long decay and add a gate to silence it a little interval after each kick trigger). If your reverb has a decay setting as well as a room size, set the room size all the way up and the decay all the way down. Set the low cut off to include all the bass, and set the hi-cut down to taste.
-after the reverb, add a compressor, setting like I said above.
:optional: duplicate your kicks and send one to channel one with the reverb and the other to channel 2 with the compressor. Pitch the kick going into channel 1 down 1-4 semitones for a deeper bass, and then feed channel 1 into channel 2's compressor with the other kick.
Here are some I made today, and thought I'd dig up this thread out of excitement (DO NOT load up these files in WINAMP, because they are 32-bit wave's and winamp distorts them for no reason):
Kick 1
Kick 2
Kick 3
These kinda sound like they are in a small tin room, probably because i used fruity reeverb, or because I'm doing it wrong :DOA crooked-teeth-smile:
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- KVRian
- 1001 posts since 6 Sep, 2005 from london
Well, in answer to earlier points ..i don't think it has to be sampled kicks at all. Its clearly at a low-ish bit depth, but could quite easily be synthesised. I would suggest that sonic charge Utonic could easily make this kick sound, using the noise oscilators for the detail in the attack.
Slight distortion is also giving the higher end definition. in fact , the more i listen to it, the more sure i am its a synth kick. They don't have to be smooth and sinusoidal, you know!
I alwasy hear about producers layering X number of kicks together to get that magic sound, and maybe they do- but i can never see why it is necessary - occasionaly layer ing two does the trick, but if you know how to eq and compress and shape a sound, it shouldn't be required.
Anyway, try Utonic! you'll be amazed at the timbres it produces. for my money it sounds way snappier and deeper and thumpier than Waldorf Attack.
Slight distortion is also giving the higher end definition. in fact , the more i listen to it, the more sure i am its a synth kick. They don't have to be smooth and sinusoidal, you know!
I alwasy hear about producers layering X number of kicks together to get that magic sound, and maybe they do- but i can never see why it is necessary - occasionaly layer ing two does the trick, but if you know how to eq and compress and shape a sound, it shouldn't be required.
Anyway, try Utonic! you'll be amazed at the timbres it produces. for my money it sounds way snappier and deeper and thumpier than Waldorf Attack.