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- bManic
10-Band PLParEQ is Here!
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- KVRist
- 74 posts since 10 Jun, 2005
OkAleksey Vaneev wrote:rogeriomatos, as I've said, no problems here. If it sounds OK to you then use it. The final mix you get is what ultimately matters.
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- KVRAF
- 2009 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from Cornwall, UK
[using the 3 band version 1.6]
Thanks for this great tool, it is very welcome.
One of the things I found instantly attractive about the GUI of the single band was the visual icons for each filter type, I really liked being able to see the various types. I wonder if it i'd be possible to put a small picture of each filter type next to each filter on the drop down list? (or would they be too small?)
Another vote for scroll wheel to change the Q value.
Good luck with your project,
Mike
Thanks for this great tool, it is very welcome.
One of the things I found instantly attractive about the GUI of the single band was the visual icons for each filter type, I really liked being able to see the various types. I wonder if it i'd be possible to put a small picture of each filter type next to each filter on the drop down list? (or would they be too small?)
Another vote for scroll wheel to change the Q value.
Good luck with your project,
Mike
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- KVRist
- 314 posts since 12 Oct, 2002 from Calgary, Alberta, Canada and a summer home on Salusa Secundus
I tried downloading the 1-band and 4-band eq but now when I try to access the page, it says "This page has been deprecated...". Is this a permanent removal or temporary? At least the 3-band is still up.
Cheers,
Rabban
Cheers,
Rabban
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- KVRAF
- 6478 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
PLPar manual (chapter 7, page 12) - Fun with high precision allpass filters
Me and bmanic had a quick arguement about allpass filters and how they work. Well after a quick mixing of terms (and stupid me still no getting it) we did an empirical test:
1. Use your favourite host with full plugin latency compensation.
2. Set up a track to play on two channels at the same time
3. insert PLpar on one track, allpass filter mode.
4. Listen to the audio while playing with the frequency slider (wide Q)
6. Hurt, because your jaw dropped on the floor after hearing the highest quality phaser in existance.
Sure it's a bit CPU heavy for a phaser, but at least you can use it as a master bus effect without fearing for your life and credentials. Itchycoo Park 2006 anyone?
Me and bmanic had a quick arguement about allpass filters and how they work. Well after a quick mixing of terms (and stupid me still no getting it) we did an empirical test:
1. Use your favourite host with full plugin latency compensation.
2. Set up a track to play on two channels at the same time
3. insert PLpar on one track, allpass filter mode.
4. Listen to the audio while playing with the frequency slider (wide Q)
6. Hurt, because your jaw dropped on the floor after hearing the highest quality phaser in existance.
Sure it's a bit CPU heavy for a phaser, but at least you can use it as a master bus effect without fearing for your life and credentials. Itchycoo Park 2006 anyone?
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- KVRist
- 190 posts since 28 Nov, 2003
I take it that phase-linear mode was turned off? If so, wouldn't be PLParEQ be the same as any other RBJ-based parametric EQ (=almost all of them) that oversamples by two?
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- KVRAF
- 6478 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
For allpass mode you can't turn on linearphase (laws of physics preventing).
Yeah, PLpar oversamples by two, but using windowed sinc interpolation, so even the allpass delay gets more resolution.
The implementation is explained in good detail on davids homesite.
I wouldn't say it's the same as any run-of-the-mill phase warped filter. There's just more resolution, and it really can be heard. in fact the allpass summing is a good test. Less resolution would kill transients, imaging and sound grainy/mushy.
Yeah, PLpar oversamples by two, but using windowed sinc interpolation, so even the allpass delay gets more resolution.
The implementation is explained in good detail on davids homesite.
I wouldn't say it's the same as any run-of-the-mill phase warped filter. There's just more resolution, and it really can be heard. in fact the allpass summing is a good test. Less resolution would kill transients, imaging and sound grainy/mushy.
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- KVRian
- 1442 posts since 30 May, 2005
What do YOUR ears answer to this question?autloc wrote:I take it that phase-linear mode was turned off? If so, wouldn't be PLParEQ be the same as any other RBJ-based parametric EQ (=almost all of them) that oversamples by two?
In the end will be the word.
Check out some of my music at www.fritzmetal.de
Check out some of my music at www.fritzmetal.de
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- KVRist
- 190 posts since 28 Nov, 2003
Haha. Yeah, but ears were mostly irrelevant to my question.fritzman wrote:What do YOUR ears answer to this question?
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- KVRian
- 1442 posts since 30 May, 2005
Then I obviously didn't understand your question. Care to explain?autloc wrote:Haha. Yeah, but ears were mostly irrelevant to my question.fritzman wrote:What do YOUR ears answer to this question?
In the end will be the word.
Check out some of my music at www.fritzmetal.de
Check out some of my music at www.fritzmetal.de
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- KVRist
- 190 posts since 28 Nov, 2003
An all pass filter can either be 'off' (acting as a pure delay) , or it can be on, in which case it introduces different delays at different frequencies. IF PLParEQ was working in "phase linear" mode, an all pass filter would therefore do absolutely nothing (except possible add some distortion from the 8-fold process). Kingston informs me that PLParEQ doesn't give you the option, which makes sense.fritzman wrote:Then I obviously didn't understand your question. Care to explain?
If PLParEq doesn't use the phase linear mode for the all pass, then it's "just" a regular RBJ-based all pass filter - albeit with apparently superior upsampling. I wouldn't think upsampling would really be that beneficial for all pass filtering, since all pass filtering is a linear process. Well, at least if the filter wasn't adjusted/automated or didn't have some kind of modulation; perhaps with nicely interpolated time-variant filter 'cutoff' and resonance, it would sound much smoother than the 44.1kHz equivalent.
Anyway, I'm home now and cubase is just a couple of clicks away - I should check it out for myself.
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- KVRian
- 1442 posts since 30 May, 2005
Thanx autloc,
I thought you were talking about the eq in general.
Best wishes, FRitz
I thought you were talking about the eq in general.
Best wishes, FRitz
In the end will be the word.
Check out some of my music at www.fritzmetal.de
Check out some of my music at www.fritzmetal.de
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- KVRist
- 177 posts since 31 Oct, 2004 from Nærum, Denmark
Can't you get the 1 and 4 band versions anymore???
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- KVRian
- 1121 posts since 8 Oct, 2005
i have sonar 4 and have some trouble with the 3 band version not allowing the audio to start when i hit play. sonar sends that message "audio stopped." i have to hit play several times before it finally comes on. this always happens right after inserting it then occasionally thereafter.