Diff between WinXP OEM and boxed
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Stupid American Pig Stupid American Pig https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=4753 - KVRAF
- 7065 posts since 25 Nov, 2002 from not sure
I didnt take it as an attack at all mate. just clarifying my point is all 
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- KVRist
- 57 posts since 18 Feb, 2001 from London, UK
I have had XP oem disable itself twice so far (2 different PC's and XP cd's about 6month apart). In both cases it is where i have had to replace the motherboard with a different model. XP would not validate the licence code from the box via the web, nor would the automated touch-tone authorisation system and in each case i ended up talking to an advisor who 'checked' a few things (neither said what they checked) and eventually was given a code to enter which worked.
alot of hassle but finally got working systems
Makes you wonder what would happen if you ever caught the advisor on a bad day ?
alot of hassle but finally got working systems
Makes you wonder what would happen if you ever caught the advisor on a bad day ?
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- Tunesmith
- 2889 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from Toronto
They dont have bad days. They work for microsoftSmeagol wrote:Makes you wonder what would happen if you ever caught the advisor on a bad day ?
can anyone confirm for me if tech support on XP costs money? i think it does. the last time i needed support i had a friend from MS give me a special code, and when i was on the phone the issue of OEM came up. they said that typically my OEM license would not qualify for this tech support call. to clarify it wasnt just any tech support, it was a full operation where i had a personal assistant to work on the problem with me for however long i wanted. I *think* that in some cases you can be billed about $30 for the service but i'm really not sure as i said someone gave me this code for free
the reason i talk about this is because bill gates gave a speech recently here in ontario to a big engineering university(waterloo) about how when you buy Windows you never need to pay any extra money to use that software again.
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- KVRAF
- 16154 posts since 2 Dec, 2003 from Nashville, TN
I don't think it's unfair to not allow transfers with the OEM. It's linked sales-wise to one particular piece of hardware. And by doing that, you get a discount on the software. It's kind of like with Tracktion 2 and the included plug-ins. You get a STEAL on the plugs, but you can only use them with Tracktion.
And besides that, Windows remains an affordable operating system as it is.
I believe there are a few more functional differences between the two versions, but they are minor.
Koolkeys
And besides that, Windows remains an affordable operating system as it is.
I believe there are a few more functional differences between the two versions, but they are minor.
Koolkeys
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- KVRAF
- 2135 posts since 12 Jul, 2004 from Brave New World
I can't 100% verify this, but I would be inclined to believe that an OEM version is not qualified for free tech support, in that the manufacturer purchased the license, not you. whereas with a boxed version, you have purchased the OS and the license.Mr. Tunes wrote:can anyone confirm for me if tech support on XP costs money?
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- KVRAF
- 9064 posts since 1 Aug, 2003
...and you still can upgrade that copy of Tracktion.koolkeys wrote:I don't think it's unfair to not allow transfers with the OEM. It's linked sales-wise to one particular piece of hardware. And by doing that, you get a discount on the software. It's kind of like with Tracktion 2 and the included plug-ins. You get a STEAL on the plugs, but you can only use them with Tracktion.
Whereas it apparantly isn't certain if you can upgrade the hardware WinXP OEM is "linked sales-wise to", even worse: how can I tell what parts of my PC I can upgrade without WinXP OEM requiring a new C/R code?
So, your analogy would be correct if the Tracktion plugs would work only with the very version number of Tracktion you bought, not with any updates...
I don't like restrictions like these. PCs are open products (YOU pick your CPU, mobo, OS, software...) and they should remain so.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3125 posts since 6 Dec, 2002 from Ljubljana/ Slovenia
dittocptgone wrote:I don't like restrictions like these. PCs are open products (YOU pick your CPU, mobo, OS, software...) and they should remain so.
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AdmiralQuality AdmiralQuality https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=83902
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- 6657 posts since 10 Oct, 2005 from Toronto, Canada
My OEM copy of XP has never given me any trouble, even after a complete system rebuild (due to a bad hard drive, not the O/S's fault) as well as 2 processor upgrades.
It re-authorized itself with no complaints after the rebuild. And nothing bad happened after the processor upgrades. I was kind of expecting XP might think it was on another computer and take offense. But no, it didn't react to the hardware change at all actually.
AFAIC, the difference between OEM and Retail is a few hundred bucks, and saving a few trees (packaging, manuals, etc) while you're at it.
(Just my $0.02 and own personal experience, I'm not the biggest MS fan by any means. )
It re-authorized itself with no complaints after the rebuild. And nothing bad happened after the processor upgrades. I was kind of expecting XP might think it was on another computer and take offense. But no, it didn't react to the hardware change at all actually.
AFAIC, the difference between OEM and Retail is a few hundred bucks, and saving a few trees (packaging, manuals, etc) while you're at it.
(Just my $0.02 and own personal experience, I'm not the biggest MS fan by any means.
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