New Miroslav Philharmonik demo video!

[MPDmike]

It's funny. I do all this work to make a video and you guys are talking about the format! Anyone actually watch it? What parts did you guys like in particular? Did you pick up any useful tips? Did anyone see it and rush out to buy it? Did anyone who already owned it get something out of the video?

I hope it was useful.

Hi Squids,

I did appreciate your hard work, and yes it was impressive to see and hear you getting those great sounds out of Miro. I bought Miro a couple of months back, and so you don't have to convert me to the product, but what I am more interested in is a tutorial as to how to get the most out of the package.

I am impressed by the quality of, say, those Larry Ortega pieces, and I think you play part of one during your video. There is obviously the skill in those pieces that are purely musical - about composition and orchestration techniques - but what interests me is how to get those things out of Miro. We do not have MIDI versions of the demos to break them down and check out what Larry Ortega is actually doing with Miro.

What would be on my shopping list is a tutorial showing how and why you select a particular articulation and mould it into the right sound to fit into a musical idea. When I open Miro I am confronted by lots of different choices about the samples I can use, and I can spend hours just playing around with them, when a little bit of advice from the experts might short-circuit all that learning curve and make me more productive.

So, are there any plans for some more in-depth tutorials about how to use Miro for some real music projects? After all that is why we buy Miro, is it not?

Mike

[Caleb]

Excellent post Mike.

I think it might take a passionate customer who happens to be an experienced mock-up composer to get that...but you never know.

Caleb

[spuddle]

*stares enviously at the Continuum Fingerboard Controller in the background*


hehe,

Nice videos, it's obviously a great product.

[Squids]

Wow. That stretch thing is remarkable! That solves a lot of my sequencing problems.

Although I am a big sequencer guy, I love to be able to play things live on my keyboard, which is why I am so impressed by the video with the live keyboard playing.

We'll see if this is something I can afford in the near future.

Cool! That's good to hear Greg. If you haven't already been to our store, check out www.esoundz.com We also have some extra benefits for people who buy Miroslav Philharmonik from esoundz. One is an extra set of combi sounds.

[Caleb]

Oooh - is that extra combi now available Squids?

Caleb

[Squids]

Oooh - is that extra combi now available Squids?

Caleb

Yeah, I believe when you log into esoundz it is there to download in the member's area. If not then you can email esoundz to ask how to get it. I should really know! I'll find out myself too. There are probably links on how to get it maybe on the Miro pages.

[Rico]

I am impressed by the quality of, say, those Larry Ortega pieces, and I think you play part of one during your video. There is obviously the skill in those pieces that are purely musical - about composition and orchestration techniques - but what interests me is how to get those things out of Miro. We do not have MIDI versions of the demos to break them down and check out what Larry Ortega is actually doing with Miro.

This is what I think is so great with the GPO - files to learn from. There are some MIDI/Cubase/whatnot demo files to load and see what makes a good piece sound the way it does.

This would a benefit to all sample libraries (and other stuff as well), not only demo-files, but more tutorial style files that the users can really learn from.

Of course - the talented ones can figure this out themselves, but then there are guys like myself who need to be hand-held through these kinds of things...

So (hint, hint) this would be nice to see for the Miro also. I haven't bought it yet, but it would surely be something that would tip the scale towards Miro in my struggle to find out which library to buy next.

Regards,
Rico

[Caleb]

Honestly, if I had an ounce of skill in orchestrating with Miro I would make it my priority to put something together for download, but unfortunately I suck at it IMO, so I'm hanging out myself for an educational injection.

Caleb

[MPDmike]

Thanks Caleb and Rico. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one looking for a little help in the Miro tutorial field. I notice Squids has gone quiet on this one!

I know a fair amount about the theory of orchestration, less so about putting it into practice. But when dealing with a music computer the approach cannot be the same as with real players - well, 'obviously', you might say. The problem is just one of learning how to program Miro to produce the sounds I know are in there somewhere. It would be great to see a tutorial taking us through some basic steps, and then we can use that as a platform to launch ourselves into more complex projects.

The booklet that comes with Miro lays out the controls available, and it does seem pretty comprehensive in its coverage of what knobs can be twiddled. However, I must admit I find the details in this booklet somewhat daunting; it's a bit like giving a guy a book about driving and saying: "there's the car - drive!" I have been able to put together some pieces of music with Miro, but I feel I am only using a fraction of the power that I would use if I knew what I was doing. I've got a Ferrari here, and I'm driving it like a Trabant!

Mike

[Caleb]

To tell you the truth, I don't think Squids should have anything necessarily to say on this.

From what I can see, SR gave us (yet again) more than was originally planned and more than was originally discussed. It's a trade practice of SR/eSoundz to do this with each newly released product which is why I'm a customer.

So as much as it would be fantastic if SR could arrange for a Miro pro to spell it all out for us (and Squids - feel free...honestly), I don't feel let down that they haven't.

What I will say however, is that if there are any very good natured Miro pros out there that can't be bothered putting together anything comprehensive, just add small tips to the following thread or just mail them to me...and I might just tidy them up into tutorials if I get time. Good compromise?

Here's the thread: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=103808

Caleb

[MPDmike]

A generous offer from you Caleb.

Just in case it might have come across unintentionally, I am in no way being critical of SR or Miro, I think they are a great company producing excellent products. In fact Miro is the first SR product I have bought, and so probably part of my problem is that I was unfamiliar with the style and operational features of their products. Regardless of whether any tutorials come along or not, I will persevere until I master Miro. It is just frustrating that I would like to run before I can walk !!

Mike

[Big Tick]

Am I the only one who can't download the videos ?
'Tick

[Vocalvoodoo]

Oh One that is Bearded. I have some good news for you. But, I cannot say anything yet. The only thing I can say is that you WILL have Miroslav. Don't worry. I will explain to everyone later. Don't try to pry it out of me.

Well since no one has tryed to pry it out, I will since my interest is peaked. Will I have it too? I can grow a beard if that helps.

So what do you mean? Does the ST 2.1 DVD include the MIRO sounds? (wishful thinking, I know!)

Ok, well, I didn't really pry, but you get the point.

[MPDmike]

What's the problem Big Tick?

You will need QuickTime 7 to play the videos, using the link already given above:

www.apple.com/quicktime/download/standalone.html

Which puts QuickTime 7 on your computer without iTunes.

But to download the videos should be the easy bit, all you need to do is click the right button on your mouse on the "Download the movie" link and then select "save target as" to download the movie to your desktop.

Mike

[Squids]

Oh One that is Bearded. I have some good news for you. But, I cannot say anything yet. The only thing I can say is that you WILL have Miroslav. Don't worry. I will explain to everyone later. Don't try to pry it out of me.

Well since no one has tryed to pry it out, I will since my interest is peaked. Will I have it too? I can grow a beard if that helps.

So what do you mean? Does the ST 2.1 DVD include the MIRO sounds? (wishful thinking, I know!)

Ok, well, I didn't really pry, but you get the point.

I didn't say I would give it to him, although he probably does deserve it. No, you guys will see. I will quote David Bowman from 2010... if you know the quote then good for you!