i may be wrong, because i didn't actually moved to OSX ( still working on os9 )
But i don't see actually a vst effect that really rivals with hardware versions of gated or reverse reverb effects
And considering that these effects are, ( usually but roughly ) tempo related in most of the musical productions, this could be a useful addition of their software counterparts if, of course, it could be realistically realised
- what do you think about it folks ?
no need for dedicated gate/reverse reverbs vstx ?
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- KVRAF
- 6504 posts since 25 May, 2002 from Bobo-dioulasso\BF__Geneva/CH
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- KVRAF
- 8719 posts since 24 May, 2002 from Tutukaka, New Zealand
You're right, there don't seem to be many (if any) that do reverse reverb, although one or two do have gated reverb.
For reverse reverb, I still use convolution. Simply find a reverb that suits, then reverse the impulse. It can take a little bit of tweaking, but it's usually pretty easy to achieve. As most convoluters allow shortening of impulses, you can make it fit tempo-wise probably even better than h/w units, and most seem to have predelay too. And if the reversed impulse doesn't quite sound right (which is entirely feasible as that wouldn't be the same way a h/w unit does it), then you simply use the envelope instead (SIR does this...dunno about Mac convoluters though?)
As h/w units use an envelope to achieve it, as long as you use the same impulses, you can pretty well make convolution reverse reverb identical.
I don't know why more VST reverbs don't offer envelope reversability - it really can't be difficult to implement.
For reverse reverb, I still use convolution. Simply find a reverb that suits, then reverse the impulse. It can take a little bit of tweaking, but it's usually pretty easy to achieve. As most convoluters allow shortening of impulses, you can make it fit tempo-wise probably even better than h/w units, and most seem to have predelay too. And if the reversed impulse doesn't quite sound right (which is entirely feasible as that wouldn't be the same way a h/w unit does it), then you simply use the envelope instead (SIR does this...dunno about Mac convoluters though?)
As h/w units use an envelope to achieve it, as long as you use the same impulses, you can pretty well make convolution reverse reverb identical.
I don't know why more VST reverbs don't offer envelope reversability - it really can't be difficult to implement.
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- KVRist
- 86 posts since 31 May, 2003
MasterVerb 5 (due out later this week) will feature a new envelope control for things like gated reverb and reverse effects.
http://wavearts.com/MasterVerb5.html
http://wavearts.com/MasterVerb5.html
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 6504 posts since 25 May, 2002 from Bobo-dioulasso\BF__Geneva/CH
Wow...this looks as a major update !rpmartino wrote:MasterVerb 5 (due out later this week) will feature a new envelope control for things like gated reverb and reverse effects.
http://wavearts.com/MasterVerb5.html
I don't know what you think about it but personnaly, i feel like it would a pretty nice challenge to once create something convincing as a gate/reverse reverb synced to tempo...
I tried to use bram's bouncing ball delay on that purpose but couldn't create a patch that sounded correctly at a different tempo than the prieviously choosen one.
Nice and clever additionnal feature though, this was still lacking on the market actually !
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
GVST offers GRevDly for reversed delay. Scroll down on this page:
http://homepages.tesco.net/~graham.yeadon/gvst/
http://homepages.tesco.net/~graham.yeadon/gvst/
