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Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:39 am

androidlove wrote:ok, what's a free allpass filter so i can try this out (i obviously don't know much about filters)

PLpar. It's not only free, it's the ultimate allpass phaser. (but for just a phaser, a bit of a pig)

Setup two copies of the audio playing at once, insert PLpar on one channel in allpass mode. play with freq and Q values. (latency compensating host required)

Feast your ears on the smoothest and cleanest phaser in existance.

boin · Post by **boin** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:48 am

Debutante wrote:Does anyone know of any phaser that let you manually determine its movement...like you can a filter without an lfo?

Well, if I'm not sure if it is what you want, but for example in Kjaerhus Classic Phaser (free) you can set "Depth" to zero and do the phasing manually by varying the "Upper(Hz)" knob.

In most phasers the LFO amount is controlled by some knob called Depth or Width; setting these to zero usually disables the LFO control completely. The default notch(es) position is determined by another control labeled Frequency or something (like the "Upper(Hz)" above). Varying this will do the phasing (should check for zippering).

bobby yarrow · Post by **bobby yarrow** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:14 pm

If hardware is an option, the moogerfooger phaser is damn nice and lets you do exactly what you want. For that matter, so does a wah pedal, if I'm understanding you right.

multree · Post by **multree** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:17 pm

you could also try the PHASE bug an automate the phase bubbles ....

shamann · Post by **shamann** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:21 pm

I tried adjusting the upper limit on the Kjaerhus Classic Phaser, but it didn't produce a very good result, and you could only automate it since the zippering noise when manually adjusted made it unusable. I've also tried PLPar as a phaser, and while I like some things about the EQ, I found it sounded not so good as a phaser.

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Debutante · Post by **Debutante** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 6:16 pm

Thanks for the replies guys! Duncanparsons that would be great...if you had something like that going. This could make pad synthesis a much finer custom job. If it is just several notches, how come no one has decided to make a phaser with option to LFO on or off? It's only that movement that I would lke to be able to customize. I've tried it with a couple of automated notches, but it just does not sound the same.

androidlove · Post by **androidlove** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 6:32 pm

btw, thanx for the help guys. what i mean, i have a bunch of filters that all seem to do diff things. i wish i understood exactly what they're doing and how. i not only want to understand it in an audio/visual way, i'd like to understand it mathematically

Debutante · Post by **Debutante** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 6:39 pm

multree wrote:you could also try the PHASE bug an automate the phase bubbles ....

Okay...there's something I'll have to try. I remember when the Phasebug first came out I asked if there was any way to fix the latency and someone from your team replied that you might consider a similar plugin for realtime usage since the Phasebug was meant for mainly for correctional editing...but thanks for the funky tip. I'll try it out!

loophead · Post by **loophead** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:12 pm

Audio Damage 'Phase Two" will be able to do this. Out in a month or so. Emulation of a Mutron Bi-Phase which did what you are looking for (I owned one for years) Go look at his thread you can see that each phaser has a CC option as a mod source - that will do what your looking for.

Andywanders · Post by **Andywanders** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:50 am

You might be able to do it with this...

http://www.virtualcreations.de/software ... ltraphazer

Virtual Creations wrote:UltraPhazer 1.2
VCS UltraPhazer is a multi oscillated phaser VST plugin for Windows hosts. It sounds very cool on guitar tracks and on raw saw sound. It can also be used as stereo enhancer and auto panner. There are 14 sliders you can control, Resonance, Min Filter, Max Filter, LFO Freq, LFO Add 1-3, Filter 1-4, Num Filter, Stereo Phaz and Mix. You can also use it as multi notch filter. Windows only.

NAD · Post by **NAD** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:28 am

I noticed in Kontakt what they call the phaser filter which looks by the graph like a bunch of notch filters that close in on each other when the cutoff is raised. And it sounds like a phaser without an lfo. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

Crandall1 · Post by **Crandall1** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:26 pm

Our Phase Two plug-in will, like the real Mutron Bi-Phase, be able to do what you want. Each side can receive the LFO or MIDI CC for the control of the sweep. Just whack it to MIDI CC and don't send it any CC info, and you're good to go.

We should have this done in a couple weeks. It will be $49.00 for PC VST and OSX VST/AU.

Chris Randall
Audio Damage, Inc.
http://www.audiodamage.com
Audio Damage, Inc.

steffensen · Post by **steffensen** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:37 pm

im REALLY looking forward to it Crandall1 !

original flipper · Post by **original flipper** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 6:02 pm

HI

It would be nice to have an EMU of the old LOVETONE pedals - the Meatball WAH pedal being particularly nice.

It is hard finding really decent Phaser/Flanger's - I look foward to the Audio Damage offering.

Flipper.

The Working Man's Phaser?