Microsoft has gone totally crazy! Can you believe this?!?!?!

[Unkie Al]

A custom-configured Linux for music is not far off. There's a video production company in the state of Maryland, U.S., that is working on "Chainsaw Linux" which is a Linux distro optimized for video production. It is bundled with the GIMP photo editor, the Cinelerra video editor and Blender animation creator, all on one disk. Tweaking a Linux distro to be a music-only OS (eliminating all the cutesy-ass gingerbread that gets in the way) is not hard to do. Add in the Ardour multitrack editor, the ARTS software synth environment and a few other open source freebie programs and you've got a pretty nice little rig going on... for free.

[Sascha Franck]

As for me, I'm not interested in learning a new OS when it comes to making music.
I do however believe that Linux is a nice OS (even if I have close to no experience with it, let alone personal experience).
So, for me (strictly being a dumb end user here), there had to be an install that should install a boot manager (in case I'm not using XPs), the OS, a kickass sequencer leaving no wishes open and am assortment of plugins close to, say, the Logic range of plugins.
All this should be doable with very few actions on my side. I don't want command lines, I don't want driver hassles, I don't want to search for compatible plugins.

Of course, Windows doesn't offer all those either, but I'm more familiar with it for obvious reasons, so troubleshooting is easier for me as the end user.
It'd really have to be like: Select music OS while booting, start sequencer, start working. No net stuff, nothing else.

I don't think this will happen any day soon.

As said, this is all strictly spoken from an end users POV.

[Radek]

It'd really have to be like: Select music OS while booting, start sequencer, start working. No net stuff, nothing else.

I don't think this will happen any day soon.

Nope.

It did happen already and it's called "Oasys". Only one snag... the price tag.

[aciddose]

plus you need a good sequencer for that.

for me, it works: turn on, select linux on grub menu, start sequencer, realize how bad sequencer is, wish i ported my stuff here already, think about porting my stuff, complain to myself that i'm so lazy, give up, download porn

[cptgone]

For me, linux is out of the question untill there's a host that can do whatever cubase, combined with energyXT, does.

[aciddose]

i have that in mind, with quite a few more advanced features. the problem is it is just so much damn work to do alone, and it is too difficult to do as a group while maintaining quality.

only resolve is to give up and visit goatse.

[Unkie Al]

Diverting from the Linux thread for a moment, a pretty terrific piece of software right now is Tracktion; it does what it says its supposed to do without the typical "Windows" environment or appearance getting in the way. It almost looks and feels like it has its own OS running under its skin.

[Unkie Al]

Sascha, when's the last time you looked at Linux? Almost all distros have graphic desktop interfaces and the only time you're offered command lines is when you ask for one. Just about each one of them auto-installs on your hardware with no BS, and the only real concern is whether you are signed in as the ROOT user or as a plain old user...just like the ADMIN and USER options now on Windows 2K.

Run on up to http://www.kde.org/screenshots/ and take a look at what we're using now. And unlike Window or Mac OSX, its FREE.

[fake]

Hehe....


I prefer Gnome as I'm not too bothered about "eye candy" and for music I use "fluxbox". I really don't want to look like an xp clone!

I also can't understand this "learning a new os business". Each time you buy a new programme you have to learn how to use it and the diff now between using win and linux is very small.

It's about time kvr got its act together and had a "sticky" linux topic as there is plenty of interest in it.


fake

[Jeremy_NSL]

I would sell any microsoft shares now. Windows Vista will be a flop, no doubt about it. I work with computers every day and I would say 90% of people have absolutely no desire for a new OS - not only that but 95% of them wouldn't have a desire if they were told they needed to upgrade their computers to run it. These are residential customers...

But the outlook is even worse for business - no IT guys are going to want to touch this with a ten-foot pole! Upgrade headaches for what? Fancy 3d GUI? Umm, yeah that will sure sell alot of copies... Especially since you'll need a helluva graphics card to run it.

Microsoft made a mistake: they made Windows XP too good. For the average user there is no reason whatsoever to get an upgrade. And certainly MS will try to flog their OEM partners to sell copies, but I have a feeling even Dell and Gateway will have a hard time spurring Vista sales...

[tetraplan]

Hehe....


I prefer Gnome as I'm not too bothered about "eye candy" and for music I use "fluxbox". I really don't want to look like an xp clone!

Oh, but you can totallyblingify Gnome. And when you look at some of those *box themes... oh my.
Still, not a bit like XP, though. Which is nice.
I use the Blended borders for Metacity, which roxx0r, and the various Milk themes are quite nice, too.

It's about time kvr got its act together and had a "sticky" linux topic as there is plenty of interest in it.

Seconded.

Groet, Erik

[DuX]

What I say is: Thank you, but my Windows 2000 is working perfectly and the installation consumes around 100MB give or take a few MB ["lighted" of course. Then I install everything I need and that everything consumes around 1.5GB... I have the same system for 3 years now and it's still that small and working perfectly.

And believe me: I have every-------thing I need!

Cheers!

[cptgone]

i have that in mind, with quite a few more advanced features. the problem is it is just so much damn work to do alone

Is that even possible? Development on Cubase started +/- 25 years ago, and there are 100 programmers at Steinberg...

There must be people working on a Linux host anyway. I've read about one that is in the works.

[Lawnmower Of The Damned]

The biggest benefit for me would be increased ram limitation. I am constantly maxing out my ram when writing with orchestral libraries and whatnot. Unfortunately, Vista really looks like it's going to blow goats.

Wait, did I just make a Wayne's World reference? I haven't seen that movie in a decade or more...

Anyway, what I really want is Windows XP with the increased hardware capabilities of Vista. However, I want it without stupid 3d interfaces and useless DRM.

Actually, what I REALLY want is a version of Linux with the increased hardware capabilities of Vista that will still work with the several thousand dollars worth of VSTs and host apps I have. Hell, EWQLSO alone was $1,000 and I'd really hate to toss it out just because Vista has sex with sailors for money to finance it's drug habit.

[aciddose]

i was telling people to get ready to dump ms shares in jan 03. i said by jan 06 you'll be in a critical situation so you should milk what you've got like hell and be constantly ready to dump it the closer you get to 06. people dont like being told they are sitting on a risky portfolio when its filled with the most profitable and best known companies in the world.. to say the least. i simply say "keep an eye on that microsoft buddy!" these days.

i was a bit wrong, ms has been late delivering their flop :')

although, keep an eye on buying in too, who knows.