The effect you've always dreamed of?
- KVRAF
- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
you mean more pleasant? they could have either 1) applied some function to change the exact position of samples from the dac, or 2) used a non-linear dac.
i've built several 4 bit, 7 bit, 12 bit etc discrete dacs before and i notice slightly random positions for the output create nicer sound than a typical perfect integrated dac. i'll be looking into this for when i'm working on my quaniser for sure.
i'll have wah ability on the way with the next release as well for my filter plugin.
i've built several 4 bit, 7 bit, 12 bit etc discrete dacs before and i notice slightly random positions for the output create nicer sound than a typical perfect integrated dac. i'll be looking into this for when i'm working on my quaniser for sure.
i'll have wah ability on the way with the next release as well for my filter plugin.
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- KVRAF
- 3096 posts since 3 Nov, 2002 from Kettering UK
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- KVRAF
- 1868 posts since 26 Oct, 2002 from San Francisco
Well the company I just started working for has some seriously heavy duty hardware. Not sure how they'd feel about me breaking into the data centre to install a beta version of a VST thoughaciddose wrote:jackson; yeah, it is possible but would be very cpu intensive. basically it would just involve sampling at fractional points using spline or sinc reconstruction, and then rebuilding the waveform using sinc.
when i said very, i ment, get yourself a supercomputer and we'll talk.
But then, I am the IT Finance Administrator, maybe I could just order one.
Interesting that it's such an intensive operation. I had never thought about it from the implementation POV, just as an end user... Thanks for the info, I'll call you in 5 years when a desktop has the power of a current super computer
Mike
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- KVRAF
- 10597 posts since 13 Jun, 2004 from Alberto Balsam
Oh yea! a filter that will round its cutoff frequency to the nearest semitone.
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- KVRAF
- 3971 posts since 19 Apr, 2005 from Brissie
Great, acid - I'm going to try all your plugs out today! Make it dirty, mate!!!!! (and controllable via mod wheel, as a few are, I think)

I've joined Lurkers Anonymous.
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- KVRAF
- 1868 posts since 26 Oct, 2002 from San Francisco
Okay, that's a great idea for a new VST.shamann wrote:Yay!aciddose wrote:i have this on the way, it'll be with the next xhip/xhipeffects release in some time.
That's interesting. You often hear in discussions about old digital synths/samplers that the engineers did some fancy jiggerypokery with the D/A conversions to produce aliasing of a less unpleasant nature (more even harmonics). That in a bit reducer would be excellent.jackson wrote:I'd also like more sophisticated control over the harmonics produced by downsampling on bitcrushers. It's often impossible to tune them correctly.
JiggeryPokery, now in VST, AU and TDM. Now YOU can sound like wonderfully optimized but inherently flawed D/A's from the best era in digital audio - the 80's! $995.95.
Maybe someone should talk to Waves.
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- KVRist
- 165 posts since 9 Sep, 2005
If you really want a great FX rack, then go and ask Spectrasonics to release that very huge FX Rack from their Stylus RMX as a VST. It has lots of quality effects plus fantastic sounding Verb Pro! The best reverb I've ever heard in software!JackDark wrote:This sounds great! I was thinking about something like that too.. maybe 10 FX in a bucket, little pieces floating in water you cold grab and pull and just make a general mess of things.sonicfire wrote:exactly what will come from me , soon
and for me: a multieffect that is like having 30 fx in one
I'm sure your version will be more logical though.
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- KVRist
- 459 posts since 30 Jul, 2002 from netherlands
Hey, I can relate to that. I like the noise on the Tender Buttons album by Broadcast and I noticed they use this thing live :Chase wrote:Very, very hard to explain: a bit-crusher that doesnt sound so digital
http://www.frostwave.com/sonicalienator/
I would like a VST version of it.
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- KVRAF
- 2107 posts since 12 May, 2003 from gone
i'd like to see something like the Electro-Harmonix microsynth in an FX plugin (yeah I know there's a microsynth clone done in SE, but I mean a really *good* one that expands on the concept).
Something that you can feed in a sound, it'll give you options to generate a bunch of synth parts based on the input, it would need -
octave divider/multiplexer, so you can have octave up and/or octave down, maybe tuneable?
generate a sine/saw/square wave monosynth line to follow the input
it would be kind of a synth follower, doubler, etc. You could sing into it and have it add a sub-bass synth following your singing, and.or an octave up effect, a envelope following filter that can be applied to any or numerous parts, etc.
and of course a mixer at the ass-end of the thing to blend and balance your original input with all the other cool new stuff the FX is generating
does this make sense or should i put down the crack pipe?
Something that you can feed in a sound, it'll give you options to generate a bunch of synth parts based on the input, it would need -
octave divider/multiplexer, so you can have octave up and/or octave down, maybe tuneable?
generate a sine/saw/square wave monosynth line to follow the input
it would be kind of a synth follower, doubler, etc. You could sing into it and have it add a sub-bass synth following your singing, and.or an octave up effect, a envelope following filter that can be applied to any or numerous parts, etc.
and of course a mixer at the ass-end of the thing to blend and balance your original input with all the other cool new stuff the FX is generating
does this make sense or should i put down the crack pipe?
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- KVRist
- 207 posts since 28 May, 2005
just really good compressors with different flavours (think Distressor, STC-8, Fatso, 2500, etc) and eq to start with. Then when it's covered Eventide power in a plug-in (or standalone), l480, tc4000/6000 and that'd be it. Oh, and mixer presets in Cubase that make it sound and sum like do different models of SSL, Neve, API...
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- KVRAF
- 10597 posts since 13 Jun, 2004 from Alberto Balsam
AND AND a compressor with adjustable envelope curves.
annnnnddddd a limiter with more sophisticated controls beyond the one "Db" knob.
annnnnddddd a limiter with more sophisticated controls beyond the one "Db" knob.
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- KVRian
- 1121 posts since 8 Oct, 2005
"The Frostwave Sonic alienator is an enhanced alias frequency generator. By combining analog filter, sonic decimator and soft distortion drive circuitry..." --frostwave.commonopoli wrote:Hey, I can relate to that. I like the noise on the Tender Buttons album by Broadcast and I noticed they use this thing live :Chase wrote:Very, very hard to explain: a bit-crusher that doesnt sound so digital
http://www.frostwave.com/sonicalienator/
I would like a VST version of it.
i'll bet we all have those 3 in our ammo. just combo the ones you have
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- KVRAF
- 2685 posts since 14 Jul, 2005 from Australia
bduffy about the chorus, have you tried the Kjaerhus Golden Modulator ? I was looking for exactly the same type of chorus you describe but am no longer looking since buying this awesome plugin.
My VST desires are 2 replacements for 2 Waves plugins ...
- A kickass stereo imager like the S1-Imager
- A good de-esser like Waves RDeesser, nothing is as good as that imho.
Cheers
Fots
My VST desires are 2 replacements for 2 Waves plugins ...
- A kickass stereo imager like the S1-Imager
- A good de-esser like Waves RDeesser, nothing is as good as that imho.
Cheers
Fots
- KVRAF
- 19156 posts since 13 Feb, 2003 from Vancouver, Canada
Golden Modulator...yeah, not quite sold on it. I just downloaded the demo again and it still seems hard to get the effect I want. As I try this out, I think one thing I don't like in a general chorus is being able to obviously hear the LFO cycling; I want a seamless "bed" of chorus. The obvious cycling is great for some sounds, but for the everyday use, I want something that meshes into the sound.soundpalace wrote:bduffy about the chorus, have you tried the Kjaerhus Golden Modulator ? I was looking for exactly the same type of chorus you describe but am no longer looking since buying this awesome plugin.
My VST desires are 2 replacements for 2 Waves plugins ...
- A kickass stereo imager like the S1-Imager
- A good de-esser like Waves RDeesser, nothing is as good as that imho.
Cheers
Fots
I don't know: maybe you have a preset you could send me that you like? I might pick it up if I was convinced, maybe I'm missing something in the settings, but so far I like Xhip's chorus and Clone Ensemble's Bass Chorus better.
RE: the Waves plug-ins, I totally agree. If you use Cubase, there is the excellent SPL de-esser that ships with it. Easy as pie and very effective.
- KVRAF
- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
bduffy; i havent made one, but i'm sure you can find some really good frequency shifters out there. what you discribe about a "seamless" sound isnt possible with just a chorus, the offset _must_ cycle to get a continuous phasing sound. a frequency shifter is a special kind of ring modulator which produces seperate sum and difference frequencies instead of having them combined. this means you can adjust it in a way so as to produce a specific frequency offset. mixing a really good frequency shifter back with the original signal should come close to what you want, it will never sound as smooth as a chorus like xhip chorus though. atleast i've never used that 'seamless' effect in a place it really sounded good. on the other hand, my view might be a bit biased since i actually really enjoy the cyclic sound of a chorus.
that said, future versions of my chorus will have different lfo waveforms and more controls. you're hearing a triangle wave in it currently, which is the worst possible thing :')
that said, future versions of my chorus will have different lfo waveforms and more controls. you're hearing a triangle wave in it currently, which is the worst possible thing :')
