Cubase SX query on moving notes

[marcouk]

Hi guys. Looking for advice with Cubase sx.

I have recorded a piano part, lots of feel in the tune etc.

I am now labouring to fit grooves around this part which was recorded unquantised.

So, I go into the event that has all the notes and I find, say, that I need all the subsequent notes to come back, say a tick or two. The way I have been doing this is to click on the first note, and then ALL the following notes right to the end of the song, and then kick them back. This is very laborious, and I canot help think that there must surely, be an easier way to select ALL the notes after a certain point? Any ideas?

[advaya]

Can you not just go into the key editor, and lasso select all the notes to the right of the note in question? You could then move the hilighted notes as one complete unit...

At least, that is what it sounds like you are trying to do...

The list editor isn't really ideal for manipulating multiple notes...

[marcouk]

Can you not just go into the key editor, and lasso select all the notes to the right of the note in question? You could then move the hilighted notes as one complete unit...

At least, that is what it sounds like you are trying to do...

The list editor isn't really ideal for manipulating multiple notes...

Yes that is what I am trying to do and yes I AM in the key editor. What is "Lasso select" notes?

[advaya]

click and drag a rectangle around the notes in question. That forces a multiple-select...

Make sure to choose the select tool first though...

[skybax]

OR set the locator on the start of the desired selection and choose from the Edit menu Select -> From Cursor to End.

[steffensen]

while yer at it guys, ill throw in a little question for ya.
is it possible to change controller msg's, velocity etc. by selecting all the data and drag them up n down? i havent managed to do that.

im coming from logic, where i could select such a thing, and by dragging the velocity data for example, up and down everything ive selected came along.
i could also by holding down a specific key, either make the automation data curve bigger, or smaller. like thinning it out.. or maximising it. is this possible in cubase as well?

ive studied the manual hard! without any luck yet.

[advaya]

while yer at it guys, ill throw in a little question for ya.
is it possible to change controller msg's, velocity etc. by selecting all the data and drag them up n down? i havent managed to do that.

im coming from logic, where i could select such a thing, and by dragging the velocity data for example, up and down everything ive selected came along.
i could also by holding down a specific key, either make the automation data curve bigger, or smaller. like thinning it out.. or maximising it. is this possible in cubase as well?

ive studied the manual hard! without any luck yet.

Yes... Select the notes you'd like to make changes to, then under the midi drop-down menu you can choose velocity +/- or fixed velocity, and all sorts of other midi functions... Plus, a whole myriad of quantize and advanced quantize funtions...

[Assi]

Hi guys. Looking for advice with Cubase sx.

I have recorded a piano part, lots of feel in the tune etc.

I am now labouring to fit grooves around this part which was recorded unquantised.

So, I go into the event that has all the notes and I find, say, that I need all the subsequent notes to come back, say a tick or two. The way I have been doing this is to click on the first note, and then ALL the following notes right to the end of the song, and then kick them back. This is very laborious, and I canot help think that there must surely, be an easier way to select ALL the notes after a certain point? Any ideas?

Did you already check if the "time warp" feature could at least help to the fit groove parts to the piano parts? This is great when used to adjust parts to parts that got recorded without a click.

[steffensen]

oh ok, so i cant just click n drag then. heh..fiddly.
how about the automation nodes thingy then?

i have this very nice automation curve, but its too deep in many parts, and i wanna thin it out a bit. is there any way to do that, besides choosing every single node in the areas i wanna change and then change them? it would save me a couple of hours not having to do that id say.

[advaya]

oh ok, so i cant just click n drag then. heh..fiddly.
how about the automation nodes thingy then?

i have this very nice automation curve, but its too deep in many parts, and i wanna thin it out a bit. is there any way to do that, besides choosing every single node in the areas i wanna change and then change them? it would save me a couple of hours not having to do that id say.

Are you talking midi controler lane, or VSTi automation track? Nodes in VSTi automation tracks can be multiple-hilighted, then the values can be adjusted in the horizontal inspector/status bar at the top of the project window. There is a field in the status bar that indicates a numerical value for the node(s) selected. alt-leftclicking that field brings up a slider to make adjustments, or you can just double click and enter a new value with the keyboard... Bahhh... I am probably not being very clear with this explanation...

I am sure that I am going to get chastised by some people here (who assume I am some kind of forum cop), but isn't this stuff spelled out rather clearly in the manual(s)?

[steffensen]

Are you talking midi controler lane, or VSTi automation track? Nodes in VSTi automation tracks can be multiple-hilighted, then the values can be adjusted in the horizontal inspector/status bar at the top of the project window. There is a field in the status bar that indicates a numerical value for the node(s) selected. alt-leftclicking that field brings up a slider to make adjustments, or you can just double click and enter a new value with the keyboard... Bahhh... I am probably not being very clear with this explanation...

I am sure that I am going to get chastised by some people here (who assume I am some kind of forum cop), but isn't this stuff spelled out rather clearly in the manual(s)?

first of all, ive read the manual inside out by now, havent found any info at all about it. i may have missed it tho. im not even sure ure talking about the same stuff as i am. but thats my fault, such a poor explanation from my side.

im talking about both actually, both midi controller lane and VST automation. i must admit that i havent focused much on the status bar, as im used to just click with the mouse and change things, incidently with holding down a key or two meanwhile i drag something around..but thats it. i hope i can do this "maximising" and "thinning" out the nodes this way.
clicking several hundred nodes, one by one, and applying the wanted data on them aint much of an option.
ill check the status bar later on when im back at my mates studio again, testing cubase out.

he's getting tired of me by now, im there all day playing with his precious nuendo.

[steffensen]

i have the manual here btw, and just found something my eyes didnt pick up last night. in the velocity department, there is something called compress/expand as well as limit, that seems to be exactly what i wanna do with the vst controller nodes. now i know what cubase calls this behaviour at least.

[advaya]

Automation envelopes, nodes, splines (and all things of that nature) are one of the areas where different host apps are most varied in their implementation...

Give it a bit of time. You'll eventually find the pros and cons of how they are handled in Cubase. I wouldn't say it is Cubase's strongest point, but it is effective once you understand its nuances...

[annode]

Read as much as you can find on the edit tools in sx...everything you want to do is in there.

Fast way to find things of that nature is to open the .pdf and do word search within that document.
Like search the word tools...then as you get closer to your specific need,refine your search word.

[steffensen]

just what ive been doin annode, thx for the tip tho.

i actually think i have most essential things under control now tho, been hardstudying cubase 3 for the last month now or so.. now i just gotta learn everything by heart, so i dont have to look around for stuff i know is there, same goes for the key commands.
and of course, there is always something more to learn, how much u even may know already, so i wont stop here, im still testing out stuff. (Logical Editor next!)

good thing i can hassle my mate with this 24H, until my own version arrives. had to settle with SX3 instead of Nuendo tho, i just couldnt afford it. but damn.. nuendo is so much better looking.

edit: cubase combined with eXT makes a killer solution in my book. i believe i CAN leave logic now, finally.