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electro · Post by **electro** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 4:52 pm

Is there any plug that nails this?

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 5:09 pm

Hm, I've heard more people say B4 gets the Leslie sound right than any other plug-in... but I can't recall anyone critiquing its scanner. My ear's not good enough to be a proper judge, but it sounds like what I remember a B3 sounding like (haven't had access to one for a looong time). I'll be interested in seeing what others think.

electro · Post by **electro** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 5:16 pm

B4 doesn't provide scanner as an FX.

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 5:17 pm

No? Hm, I never tried but thought the external input went through all the effects. Anyhow, that's beside the point -- carry on with other plug-ins. :-)

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 5:19 pm

try Macdonald (I'm not sure about scanner though) it's a cool rotary speaker pluggin and free...

ik · Post by ik » Sat Dec 10, 2005 6:01 pm

Try this:
http://savefile.com/files.php?fid=6677638
(very simple SE plug)
ik.

tl · Post by tl » Sat Dec 10, 2005 6:15 pm

electro wrote:Is there any plug that nails this?

Never heard the 'original',
but the Betabugs SpinBug is definitely
a nice 'rotary speaker' effect.

tl.

electro · Post by **electro** » Sun Dec 11, 2005 5:04 am

ik wrote:Try this:
http://savefile.com/files.php?fid=6677638
(very simple SE plug)
ik.

It is similar to the B4 scanner/vibrato chorus at some settings. Did you model it after that?

ik · Post by ik » Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:23 am

It is similar to the B4 scanner/vibrato chorus at some settings. Did you model it after that?

The reason it sounds similar to NI's, because NI probably did the same compromise.
It is only a modulated delay, which comes somewhat close to the real B3/C3 scanner. The advantage: it uses virtualy no CPU.
Later I'll try to emulate the real thing, it will cost a bit more CPU. (I have a real C3 (same as B3, different cabinet)) ... I'll try to match it.
ik.

lfm · Post by **lfm** » Sun Dec 11, 2005 7:18 pm

electro wrote:B4 doesn't provide scanner as an FX.

I don't know if I missed what the 'scanner' actually is, but B4fx.dll is installed together with b4.dll. the b4fx takes audio as input to use the amp and leslie sections of B4.

When I played around with NuBe LE I used that one and it sounds great.

electro · Post by **electro** » Sun Dec 11, 2005 7:19 pm

lfm wrote:
electro wrote:B4 doesn't provide scanner as an FX.
I don't know if I missed what the 'scanner' actually is, but B4fx.dll is installed together with b4.dll. the b4fx takes audio as input to use the amp and leslie sections of B4.

When I played around with NuBe LE I used that one and it sounds great.

So what happens when you use the Vibrato/scanner section of b4fx?

lfm · Post by **lfm** » Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:41 pm

electro wrote:
lfm wrote:
electro wrote:B4 doesn't provide scanner as an FX.
I don't know if I missed what the 'scanner' actually is, but B4fx.dll is installed together with b4.dll. the b4fx takes audio as input to use the amp and leslie sections of B4.

When I played around with NuBe LE I used that one and it sounds great.
So what happens when you use the Vibrato/scanner section of b4fx?

It works just fine.

I made two samples with NuBi LE. Both with b4fx as an effect after NuBi. Leslie on slow for both.

Without Vibrato scanner in B4fx on:
http://www.frndsw.com/privat/nubi-b4fx.mp3

With Vibrato scanner in B4fx on:
http://www.frndsw.com/privat/nubi-b4fx2.mp3

pj geerlings · Post by **pj geerlings** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:59 am

lfm wrote:
electro wrote:
lfm wrote:
electro wrote:B4 doesn't provide scanner as an FX.
I don't know if I missed what the 'scanner' actually is, but B4fx.dll is installed together with b4.dll. the b4fx takes audio as input to use the amp and leslie sections of B4.

When I played around with NuBe LE I used that one and it sounds great.
So what happens when you use the Vibrato/scanner section of b4fx?
It works just fine.

I made two samples with NuBi LE. Both with b4fx as an effect after NuBi. Leslie on slow for both.

Without Vibrato scanner in B4fx on:
http://www.frndsw.com/privat/nubi-b4fx.mp3

With Vibrato scanner in B4fx on:
http://www.frndsw.com/privat/nubi-b4fx2.mp3

Just a quick note here - the only problem with using any scanner vibrato effect after NuBi LE is that the percussion gets vibrato'd as well as the main signal. Strictly speaking this is not the way I understand that a typical Hammond works ...

FWIW NuBi LE chorus/vibrato uses a modulated delay line on the main signal only - the percussion is not vibrato'd at all.

peace,
pj

electro · Post by **electro** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 6:00 am

lfm wrote:
electro wrote:
lfm wrote:
electro wrote:B4 doesn't provide scanner as an FX.
I don't know if I missed what the 'scanner' actually is, but B4fx.dll is installed together with b4.dll. the b4fx takes audio as input to use the amp and leslie sections of B4.

When I played around with NuBe LE I used that one and it sounds great.
So what happens when you use the Vibrato/scanner section of b4fx?
With Vibrato scanner in B4fx on:
http://www.frndsw.com/privat/nubi-b4fx2.mp3

That is muffled.

lfm · Post by **lfm** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 9:13 am

electro wrote:That is muffled.

Heavy chorus usually is.

I did not tweak anything, just used the Blues preset in B4 which is there by default when started. It's on the chorus side and hardly no vibrato. I don't remember what depth was set to either.

It is what it is, sounding to taste or not, but there is a scanner available in b4fx, that's what I meant.

And as pj said, anything on input will be modulated of course.

When googling for scanner info yesterday I found this:

http://www.dsv.su.se/~fk/beatrix_home.html

Really nice sounding too. But for Linux only but with source code. Anybody up to porting to VST plugin or something maybe?

B3 Scanner Vibrato