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Hink wrote:I wonder if you lost your gear like I did if you'd be singing the same song about different levels of stealing...I'll tell you where I will compromise, I will except the trying it out idea as long as the person doing it believes that enough themselves they in writing inform the company that's what they did...
Well, I would differentiate between someone's personal possessions being stolen and someone using warez for demo purposes or...well...whatever. I'm not willing to make them all the same, but then I don't tend to do this with many things in life anyway.

As for writing the company regarding a warez demo, that seems so contrived that I can only assume you really mean there are no exceptions in life for your personal principles. Which is fine...but don't expect everyone else to agree with them or adhere to them simply because they work for you. That, I think, would be unreasonable. Live and let, so to speak. :)
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Edit : Infantile behaviour removed.
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Reverse Engineer wrote:Hink (head of the warez police) is a twat...that's the only conclusion i can reach. He chooses to be one, so he shouldn't be bothered that he gets treated like one. Hink.....you is da l33t twattage + Merrrrrrrryyyyyyyy chrrrrrrrisssstmaaaaaassssssssssssssss. ;)
That's uncalled for, man. Hink just has certain morals he lives by and they just happen to be different from yours, or mine or Eduardo's. They might not make sense to you, but respect them anyway, you know? So long as he respects yours respect his, and I may not've been here for very long, but I've never known Hink to not respect someone else's opinion.
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Edit : So i started growing bananas.
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Reverse Engineer wrote:Hink (head of the warez police) is a twat...that's the only conclusion i can reach. He chooses to be one, so he shouldn't be bothered that he gets treated like one. Hink.....you is da l33t twattage + Merrrrrrrryyyyyyyy chrrrrrrrisssstmaaaaaassssssssssssssss. ;)
dude if you want to believe that, be my guest...if you notice I never insulted you or treated you with anything but respect, so if that's the conclusion you draw I reckon that's your problem...not mine...:shrug:
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Reverse Engineer wrote:
Ildon wrote:
Reverse Engineer wrote:Hink (head of the warez police) is a twat...that's the only conclusion i can reach. He chooses to be one, so he shouldn't be bothered that he gets treated like one. Hink.....you is da l33t twattage + Merrrrrrrryyyyyyyy chrrrrrrrisssstmaaaaaassssssssssssssss. ;)
That's uncalled for, man. Hink just has certain morals he lives by and they just happen to be different from yours, or mine or Eduardo's. They might not make sense to you, but respect them anyway, you know? So long as he respects yours respect his, and I may not've been here for very long, but I've never known Hink to not respect someone else's opinion.
He doesn't respect mine mate, he implied i was a fkucing thief. To me he's an asswipe and that's that.
I never said that, in fact I said the exact opposite...I said quite clearly you hold yourself to the same standards as me and you should take pride in that...read back, I assuming you missed it....and I also assume you'll be man enough to apologize afterwards.
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Edit : Because my orange growth is chafing me.
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Reverse Engineer wrote:
Hink wrote:(in fact it makes one wonder if you're jealous of those who have the willpower, and personal power not to steal)
Implying i steal, therefore jealous of those who don't. Respect? No wonder you got your house trashed if that is how you show respect.
apolgies for that, I often use "you" as a generalization...I do not know yyou so I can't judge you...I don't even know what you use....but after I did say (though a post got slipped in between)
you're the one who said that it's been your experience that people that exceeds the norm (what is the norm :shrug:), I simply was saying maybe where you are, but not in my world. I'm not saying that I live in honest town usa, I'm saying that I filter out the untrustworthy from my life. I do hold myself to a high standard, but it's not because I've got something to hide....because I don't, I do so out of pride. Obviously you hold yourself to the same standard so you too should take pride.

Trust me I have made my mistakes, made the wrong choices and such. I've kicked my own feet out from under myself more then once. However I would have no reason to hide anything, because I try very hard to learn from my mistakes. :)
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Hink wrote:
Reverse Engineer wrote:
Hink wrote:(in fact it makes one wonder if you're jealous of those who have the willpower, and personal power not to steal)
Implying i steal, therefore jealous of those who don't. Respect? No wonder you got your house trashed if that is how you show respect.
apolgies for that, I often use "you" as a generalization...I do not know yyou so I can't judge you...I don't even know what you use....but after I did say (though a post got slipped in between)
you're the one who said that it's been your experience that people that exceeds the norm (what is the norm :shrug:), I simply was saying maybe where you are, but not in my world. I'm not saying that I live in honest town usa, I'm saying that I filter out the untrustworthy from my life. I do hold myself to a high standard, but it's not because I've got something to hide....because I don't, I do so out of pride. Obviously you hold yourself to the same standard so you too should take pride.

Trust me I have made my mistakes, made the wrong choices and such. I've kicked my own feet out from under myself more then once. However I would have no reason to hide anything, because I try very hard to learn from my mistakes. :)
Fair enough. The post i made that you jumped on was a generalisation too. Apologies for calling you a twat.

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Reverse Engineer wrote:
Hink wrote:
Reverse Engineer wrote:
Hink wrote:(in fact it makes one wonder if you're jealous of those who have the willpower, and personal power not to steal)
Implying i steal, therefore jealous of those who don't. Respect? No wonder you got your house trashed if that is how you show respect.
apolgies for that, I often use "you" as a generalization...I do not know yyou so I can't judge you...I don't even know what you use....but after I did say (though a post got slipped in between)
you're the one who said that it's been your experience that people that exceeds the norm (what is the norm :shrug:), I simply was saying maybe where you are, but not in my world. I'm not saying that I live in honest town usa, I'm saying that I filter out the untrustworthy from my life. I do hold myself to a high standard, but it's not because I've got something to hide....because I don't, I do so out of pride. Obviously you hold yourself to the same standard so you too should take pride.

Trust me I have made my mistakes, made the wrong choices and such. I've kicked my own feet out from under myself more then once. However I would have no reason to hide anything, because I try very hard to learn from my mistakes. :)
Fair enough. The post i made that you jumped on was a generalisation too. Apologies for calling you a twat.
it's all good...:)
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Ah, Hink just got a little passionate... can't take things too personally, especially around here. :wink:

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Reverse Engineer wrote:The post i made that you jumped on was a generalisation too.
Whew! I'm glad it wasn't directed at me. I really got splinters from riding the fence on the right and wrong of warez use. :cry: No extreme views here. Maybe a few extreme tats and that's it. I really think it's up to what makes you able to sleep well at night. I don't personally care if a person decides to try before they buy, but I get a little ruffled if they are making money off it. extremely ruffled if they make enough where they could buy it easily. Devs work hard too. Inflated prices on some products or not. Image Line is a good example with fruity loops at $99.00. Why use a warezed version when you could get that much donating plasma a few times to buy it.
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tbh I have more trouble with kvr+warez then just warez itself...dishonesty will always be...:shrug: however, warez users flocking to kvr would be a cancer. So the only defense I see is zero tollerence.

We have a good thing thanks to someone who has worked hard. If the warez cockroaches slip in the door the developers could leave. Destroying everything Ben worked so hard for. Sure we would find a new site, but Ben who has been good to us all would foot the bill, I just do not think that's fair at all...:?
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