KVR Audio

JackDark · Post by **JackDark** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 10:29 pm

Thanks Tuz.

Makes me feel better that there are people out there who have the same wants as myself.

It's not like I force anyone to download my plugs.

Anyway, here's a demo MP3 demonstrating what ShatterShot Lite can do:

HERE IS THE DEMO.
That demo is just a plain drum beat, then -only- ShatterShot Lite used cycling the presets.

tuz · Post by **tuz** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 10:38 pm

JackDark wrote: HERE IS THE DEMO.

aciddose · Post by **aciddose** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 10:51 pm

i missed the posts where you discribed how much se sucks :( if there is no module for jpg, se produces 1.5m binaries, and upx only takes it down to a third.. well, in that case se is lazy.

if you want to tell me exactly how the modules and interconnections you used work, i'll code it and give you the source. can even use jpg, png, and your original graphics. which modules did you use? the delay sounds higher quality that a bidirectional linearly interpolated one, i suppose some gating is also going on.

also i notice you can not sync the state of the plugin absolutely, so you can not reproduce duplicate sequences intentionally which is sad.. i'm not sure how hard it would be to do that. i guess it would involve having a 'sync' button/parameter and being able to define states, but in that case it would require you reveal the entire inner workings to the user.. i'm not sure how many people would care about anything i just said anyway.

trial and error sampling could work too i guess.

JackDark · Post by **JackDark** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:35 pm

Alright AcidDose, gloves off and all that. Where can I download some plugs that -you- have created? I just want to test out your handywork.

Reverse Engineer · Post by **Reverse Engineer** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:38 pm

JackDark wrote:Alright AcidDose, gloves off and all that. Where can I download some plugs that -you- have created? I just want to test out your handywork.

Xhip (a continuous beta) It's in the instruments dropdown up der ^^^ and along a bit >>>

Rev. Jem · Post by **Rev. Jem** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 4:43 am

This thread put me in mind of Adrian Cronauer's line in Good Morning Vietnam:
"You're in more dire need of a blow job than any ... man in history!"

Now: I'm off to try out some DarkWare ! Good onya, Jack.

paradiddle · Post by **paradiddle** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 5:27 am

http://xhip.cjb.net/

JackDark wrote:Alright AcidDose, gloves off and all that. Where can I download some plugs that -you- have created? I just want to test out your handywork.

.jon · Post by **.jon** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 8:37 am

JackDark, thanks for providing the mp3 - sounds freaking excellent!

aciddose · Post by **aciddose** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:25 pm

http://xhip.cjb.net/temp/xhip80s.mp3 ^_^

lately i've been spending most of my time doing other things, but hopefully the first decent all around quality version of xhip should be forthcomming.

http://xhip.cjb.net/temp/aciddose_-_arodnap.mp3
http://xhip.cjb.net/temp/32step.mp3
3rd june 2003, 100% my own software (sequencer, synths, effects, etc, which sucked at the time). you can also tell i suck as well, i'm mosting interested in the equipment, i'm not that great a composer or etc. anyway, to say i'm not just ranting off without anything to stand on, i know at least a bit of what i'm talking about.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:01 pm

aciddose wrote:you can also tell i suck as well, i'm mosting interested in the equipment, i'm not that great a composer or etc.

Maybe you could take your head from your arse and find out what other people, ie the end-users, actually prioritise. Amongst the things important to musicians and composers, you might wanna consider, y'know, just for the briefest of seconds, that utter tosh like the size of a plugin are way down the scale in importance, probably beside their concern about the developer's middle initial and accent.

anyway, to say i'm not just ranting off without anything to stand on, i know at least a bit of what i'm talking about.

You certainly dont seem to be able to differentiate between the utility of something, and utterly irrelevant details of its construction. 'Oooh this synth is in a grey box. It'd be better if it was in a blue or red one'.

aciddose · Post by **aciddose** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:06 pm

'Oooh this synth is in a grey box. It'd be better if it was in a blue or red one' that sounds just like you :)

jack, i can code a gui module for se to use jpg files, and also the transparency stuff i mentioned for pngs, if you're interested i'll code something and you can test it for me.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:13 pm

aciddose wrote:'Oooh this synth is in a grey box. It'd be better if it was in a blue or red one' that sounds just like you

You're the one whining about trivialities. I guess the actual musical application of plugins isnt something you have a feel for.

JackDark · Post by **JackDark** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:25 pm

aciddose wrote:'Oooh this synth is in a grey box. It'd be better if it was in a blue or red one' that sounds just like you

jack, i can code a gui module for se to use jpg files, and also the transparency stuff i mentioned for pngs, if you're interested i'll code something and you can test it for me.

SE does allow you to use .PNGs which support transparency layers. However, having a subcontrol module that supported .GIFs (for animated .GIF purposes mainly) and .JPGs (for size compression) would not only be greatly appreciated by myself but countless others in the SE community.

aciddose · Post by **aciddose** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:28 pm

whyt;

i'm trying to make the world better, and you're trying to complain about both problems with the world, and my solutions for them. what is the meaning of your life? to make the world worse off? listen buddy, you need to chill out and do something useful, stop trying to heckle me, it isnt getting you, me, or anyone else anywhere, ok?

if you had been paying attention for the last year, you would have found i more than anyone desire important properities of objects i build and use, while i spend much time fighting against individuals who would rather have a fancy gui without it actually being an interface to something real underneath. if everyone actually cared about the quality of an instrument rather than its looks, or features which are not required by real artists, they would be using xhip. but are they?

in the real world, people will not only ask for the blue and red gui, they will demand it. they will want to be able to switch between them at will, and they will want to be able to make their own versions with a background image of the latest pop whore. will these people care about the instrument? no. they only care that they presds a button, and the instrument makes a sound that pleases them, they want it to make them feel like they are melting, into the pool of inanimate inert goo that accurately represents them.

most of the market for audio software is made up of these people, very few real artists use software in comparison. most companies with sound business strategy in this market are producing the one-key-magic software with fancy graphics and useless frill features that the market desires. i wont bother naming anyone specifically, just take a look around at the most successful products!

when i mentioned what i did to jackdark, i intended to help him to improve his creations in ways i thought he might be interested in. had he come to me suggesting such improvements to my software, i would have been very thankful. i ask people for suggestions and the best they can come up with is "better gui" or "more patches" or "moog filters!!!!!11111one" and so fourth.

if someone could come to me and say "i think xhip's sliders should be made from x, y and z, and here is a document and a bitmap to show you how to do this. i like the ones you already have a bit, maybe you could do i, j and k to allow for these other features." i would be probably messing up my pants with joy.

here i am, offering to put togeather something the se community probably has desired like madness for a long time, and you whyterabbyt, heckle me and insult me, for what reason?

aciddose · Post by **aciddose** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:33 pm

jd, i'll work on implementing the ijg (standard) jpeg decompressor into a se module, i'll let you know if i come up with something.

unfortunately i can not possibly support gif, i have the code right here and i could put it togeather, but anyone using it might be the target for lawsuits, most likely the se creator would get nailed for this and have to put out lots of cash just to get it shown they had nothing to do with it.. gif sucks anyway.

the png format supports animation i believe, in much the same way gif does. if i manage the jpeg module, i might also implement the latest version of the open source png code which would let you use animations with png files. png btw has much better compression than gif, and compresses/decompresses faster.. so, avoid gif at all costs, its junk.

ShatterShot Lite - DEMO MP3 ADDED