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tetraplan · Post by **tetraplan** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:18 pm

rounser wrote:
hi-nrg
I assume this is still being made? The producers and punters must keep a low profile.

Sort of. It was revived by I-F, then DJ Hell picked it up after which it merged with the whole electroclash hype thingy.
You'll hear a ton of hi-nrg and cheezy Italo-disco tracks on the Mixed Up In The Hague compilations by I-F.

Groet, Erik

jackson · Post by **jackson** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:21 pm

tetraplan wrote:
rounser wrote:
hi-nrg
I assume this is still being made? The producers and punters must keep a low profile.
Sort of. It was revived by I-F, then DJ Hell picked it up after which it merged with the whole electroclash hype thingy.
You'll hear a ton of hi-nrg and cheezy Italo-disco tracks on the Mixed Up In The Hague compilations by I-F.

Groet, Erik

WTF?!! DJ Hell plays hi-nrg?!?! Since when? Did I miss a whole beat when the most god awful genre (hi-nrg) merged with a half decent but completely different genre (electroclash)?!

My world is crumbling around me.

Reverse Engineer · Post by **Reverse Engineer** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:22 pm

My favourite genre is music

tetraplan · Post by **tetraplan** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:23 pm

VitaminD wrote:no genres?

without rules there would be chaos.

I expect to see more acoustic instruments in 'electronic' styles more and more.. in the future.

Already there. Lots of acoustic guitars and pianos in "glitch" and "IDM" today.
Then there's the whole folktronica thing- it's an ugly name, but fits a band like The Books like a glove. They mix traditional instruments like banjo, piano, cello and so on and mix then with loops and treatments.
Ah, and Jeff Mills just did a set in France with an orchestra.

Groet, Erik

Hovmod · Post by **Hovmod** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:24 pm

I laughed so hard when I first saw Ishkur's guide to electronic music, but I have come to the conclusion that a lot of people actually do think about music in those constraining boxes. "That's euro-house" "no way, it's acid stomp".

I didn't understand why until a friend of mine told me he was number two on some list. Then I got it. If everyone has their own genre, they win.

rounser · Post by **rounser** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:24 pm

I-F

I liked that "Space Invaders Are Smoking Grass" track by I-F on Ishkur's Guide to Dance Music, which was straight up electro. Would never have expected hi-nrg from him, but then, electro itself embraces the kitsch to an extent, so it kind of fits.

Shane Sanders · Post by **Shane Sanders** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:26 pm

Hovmod wrote:I laughed so hard when I first saw Ishkur's guide to electronic music, but I have come to the conclusion that a lot of people actually do think about music in those constraining boxes. "That's euro-house" "no way, it's acid stomp".

I didn't understand why until a friend of mine told me he was number two on some list. Then I got it. If everyone has their own genre, they win.

good point.

Like Michael Hedges with his tongue-in-cheek "savage myth" genre. I've been calling my electronic stuff "scorched-earth ambient" for a long time. Where's my prize and garland of roses?

rounser · Post by **rounser** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:29 pm

Where's my prize and garland of roses?

Any hick can invent a genre, but until Mixmag starts using the term, you're small potatoes. So no soup for you!

These guys tried for years:
http://www.speedbass.net/

tetraplan · Post by **tetraplan** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:32 pm

rounser wrote:
What and who defines Microhouse? I have heard the term, but it sounded so gay i didn't look into it, but i'm bored, so i'll ask now.
It's a genre that was started by a track based on sampled body noises, go figure! Instead of emphasis on big thumping kick drum and big thumping bass like most house, the kick is weaker, and there's glitch. But it's danceable, and kinda groovy, unlike most IDM. Um. That's it so far as I can see, really.

Ultra minimal house and techno have been around for a while now. That minimaliscious[1] stuff goes back to the early 90s, but I suspect Matthew Herbert has been influenced by the Clicks 'n' Cuts stuff.
Most of his sampling is heavily conceptual, though, usually dealing with the consumption society.
He knows where that funk comes from, by the way- have you heard his bigband traks? Awesome stuff.

Groet, Erik

[1] or ubercoolische, as some would say.

tetraplan · Post by **tetraplan** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:35 pm

rounser wrote:
I-F
I liked that "Space Invaders Are Smoking Grass" track by I-F on Ishkur's Guide to Dance Music, which was straight up electro. Would never have expected hi-nrg from him, but then, electro itself embraces the kitsch to an extent, so it kind of fits.

Yes, and f**king Consumer has lots of those octaving basslines on it, which are now, like, totally en vogue again (and which are very hi-nrg).

Groet, Erik

DuX · Post by **DuX** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:47 am

The Chase wrote:
DuX wrote:me hater.

Although me still like it

DuX · Post by **DuX** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:52 am

jackson wrote:
DuX wrote:Alt this "genreing" of music is crap. If you really want to make something good - mix genres. I do Industrial Electronic for fun... but mix all of the genres I like with it. My main entertainment is a bit different, but you have to do something just for thr fun of it.

just my 0.2p
I'm sorry, that just sounds bizarre to me. Since when was combining Industrial and "Electronic" considered mixing genres? As far back as I can remember (say... Skinny Puppy - The Lost Tapes ~1983) Industrial was a heavily electronic form of music.

That's why I said I mix it with other modern stiles, Industrial has always been "electronic" in nature, so there's no -combining- industrial and electronic involved, just combining IE with jungle, D&B... anything goes, really. I don't like genres, just what sounds -good-. I could make an industrial jazz if I like...

rounser · Post by **rounser** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:58 am

I don't like genres, just what sounds -good-.

Genres generally exist because what they represent, as a style, sounds good.

jackson · Post by **jackson** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:01 am

DuX wrote:That's why I said I mix it with other modern stiles, Industrial has always been "electronic" in nature, so there's no -combining- industrial and electronic involved, just combining IE with jungle, D&B... anything goes, really. I don't like genres, just what sounds -good-. I could make an industrial jazz if I like...

Sorry, I didn't read your post properly the first time around.

A friend of mine is working on some interesting house with a dirty rock sensibility. Good shit.

jackson · Post by **jackson** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:04 am

rounser wrote:
I don't like genres, just what sounds -good-.
Genres generally exist because what they represent, as a style, sounds good.

They're also great for me when I'm record shopping. I'm terrible at remembering producers names and in particular track names.

When i'm in a store and the staff are running around grabbing rekkids for me, apart from record labels, the only thing I go by is "Yeah, I'm after some gritty glitchy Chicago bumping funky shit" type of descriptions.

Now that's a genre. grittyglitchyChicagobumpingfunkyshithouse

Is this how modern day electronic scene reaslly is ?