KVR Audio

ross g · Post by **ross g** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:22 pm

the features of Sonar 5 look so good and useful, specifically the convolution reverb, the Roland Variphrase technology, i understand the fx and the synths are real good, etc, but i see a few of you aren't happy with certain midi features (like piano roll editing) and prefer Cubase...i got Traction 2 which is fine, but i think i would be a lot happier with a more comprehensive DAW platform... the more "built in" features would be better for me, and as embarrassed as i am to admit it, i'd prefer the visual feedback from a mixer-metaphor (i thought my ears were good enough, ya know? but i wanna see those channel strips)...i also do a lot of midi, there's critics of the piano roll features, but other than that there's not much specific info on the Cakewalk site, for example they mention midi FX but don't describe them (i'm thinking note velocity compression ala Logic for example)

so are there any folks that LIKE Sonar 5, any feedback on the features mentioned or positive thoughts on the app? i'm looking around, love to get some more KVR info, good or bad really....

thanks for your time,
rg

.jon · Post by **.jon** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:27 pm

If you use the search function try "Sonar" as a keyword.

soma · Post by **soma** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:29 pm

Haven't tried it but that pattern matrix thing (Live like pattern selection) looks pretty rad.

ross g · Post by **ross g** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:35 pm

pakana wrote:If you use the search function try "Sonar" as a keyword.

i guess my spelling ain't so good sometimes....i've only looked at music sites so far, but point taken...thanks!

fixed

rg

shamann · Post by **shamann** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:37 pm

Oh, it was just a typo. I assumed Babya had just released something new.

ross g · Post by **ross g** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:38 pm

soma wrote:Haven't tried it but that pattern matrix thing (Live like pattern selection) looks pretty rad.

i was going to ask about that, the features for "jamming" in S5, Live is the other app i'm considering...i'll look at that closer!

thanks,
rg

.jon · Post by **.jon** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:43 pm

Sonar 5 reviews are still too fresh to get for free, but these are the v.4:

http://www.musictechmag.co.uk/mtm/revie ... er-edition

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan05/a ... sonar4.htm

arke · Post by **arke** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:49 pm

I tried Sonar 5. Its great in and of itself. The reason I hated it, though, was the Piano Roll. I do like to record alot more with my Oxygen 8 but I still do lots of Piano roll work and sonar just isnt really cutting it. The clip stuff SUCKS

So, I have FL6, and with its pattern slicing, I really don't think I'll be looking at anything else.

torhan · Post by **torhan** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:54 pm

There's a nice review by Craig Anderton on Harmony-central's forums, but I'm not registred, so I can't search for it!

torhan · Post by **torhan** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:55 pm

Also: http://www.keyboardmag.com/story.asp?se ... code=12207

ross g · Post by **ross g** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:15 pm

torhan wrote:There's a nice review by Craig Anderton on Harmony-central's forums, but I'm not registred, so I can't search for it!

i did a search (after i got the spelling correct) and found it, i was actually reading it and came back to kvr to post:

http://acapella.harmony-central.com/for ... id=1044512

there you go, but kvr opinions still rule!

xylyx · Post by **xylyx** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:20 pm

There is no pattern matrix in Sonar, only in Project5...

Stupid American Pig · Post by **Stupid American Pig** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:45 pm

I think S 5 is great for tracking. I dont do a whole lot of midi fine editing with a mouse, so I can't really comment on how it is. I use reason if I am going to compose with softsynths, and usually use S5 for acoustic or electric guitar/piano. I then rewire reason in, freeze, copy audio, remove reason and track over it as necesary. I play my parts, quantize as necessary, and use knobs on my keystation to do any mods.

The v-vocal, purespace and other plugs are great, though I like some of the voxengo and Kjaerhus stuff to augment them.

dougsyo · Post by **dougsyo** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 12:00 am

Besides the piano roll (which admittedly may be a taste thing - I know I MUCH prefer FLS' piano roll to Sonar 4 or 5)...

... the other issue that AFAIK hasn't been addressed yet in Sonar5 is the multiple-automation bug (you'll find reference to it in other Sonar threads, here and Cakewalk's site). Personally I expect it'll be fixed soon.

Doug

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 12:29 am

dougsyo wrote:Besides the piano roll (which admittedly may be a taste thing - I know I MUCH prefer FLS' piano roll to Sonar 4 or 5)...

though I just got sonar I so agree, tbh I think part of it is the 3d feel to FL's. Then you have the tools for the PR in FL that are quick. Of course the multiple midi channel in the piano roll tops it all off nicely...

Sonar 5: Anybody liking it?