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Yes, that is how AAMS works, you can Reference any CD or track or Gerne of music, analyze it and have a reference ready that is an overall-sound for your music. The Source that comes out of your own Track or Audio material can be referenced to this 'overall'sound. The better the Reference reflects 'how you want to sound' , the better you own material as Source comes out...

Basically the Reference Styles that come with AAMS V1.5 are generated for their styles or gerne, so they might do for most users and are happy with that. But if you want your own sound, better put in and analyze your own style. It will give back your 'own' sound.

And yes you can pre-listen or play your music in AAMS. You can select any Source and Reference and hear directly the differences through your soundcard.
Skipping through the Reference Database and find/hear what you like, suits best.

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first of all: thanks for this great program.

any idea when the compresser etc. will be available (2.0)?

some questions additionaly:

1) how can i make sure i have the same or similar rms values in my tune when using a reference file i made. how would i do that, anyway i can do this in aams?
how can i make my levels match the reference one - does this work via the compressor suggestions?

2) concerning the eq suggestions for the waves c4 and linband: as there is no setting labeled "ratio"
and there are suggestions for this calculated by aams - how would i apply the settings to waves.
and: would i have to change the threshold settings in those plugins? or any other settings, such as compressor mode/knee??

in this context, similar to the possibilty to export a preset for firium, could you add the possibilty to export presets for ozone and the waves plugs, perhaps, for the compressor suggestions? or shall i just wait for aams 2.0 :hihi:

general ideas for 2.0:

- spatial comparison and suggestions, both general and low/mid/highbans specific. so to speak: how wide is the stereo field in general - and band specific..
i.e. 0% stero below 300 Hz etc.

this would be superb i think !!!

(- possibly some info on the overall reverb applied, though i suppose this will be hardly possible :shock: )

that is it so far, please tell me your thoughts on my suggestions etc.

and again: this program is very very nice nad helpful, indeed 8)
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AAMS V2.0 will be released on 1 Jan 2006, AAMS V1.0 was released on 1 jan 2005 , so i thought it would be nice to release AAMS V2.0 at the same New Years Day... :oops:

RMS is something you can call Loudness, it is more a matter of taste. When you whant to finish up a single track, if is allways good to check your mix/master inside an audio editor. With using an Loudness Maximizer you can pump up the signal as loud as can bee. Just open your master in an audio editor and watch the loudest parts, if these hit the 0db line and are flattened too much, you can hear distortion going on. Then try a lower setting, until you get some RMS around -10/-12db or so. Just watch the editor and listen for little to none distortion going on. Now the Master is as loud as can be.

Before using Loudness (Loudness Maximizer etc.) be sure you'd done EQ and Multiband Compression beforehand.

The Average Compression that AAMS V1.5 Suggests are purely based on How much overal compression is needed. I have called it 'Average Compression' and it's calculated over the whole track or part that you have analyzed before. Basically you can setup any Ratio and attack/decay times on your compressor, as long as they are within reason of mastering. So AAMS Suggests 10ms Attack,100ms decay and a Ratio 2:1. But you can change these if you whant, and does not change anything. Just understand that the 'average compression' level in -db per Multiband AAMS Suggests , is purly How Much Compression on the single band is needed. Actually this is the actual difference between Input and Output of the compression band, How much does the Multiband of the compressor must compress the siganl from input to output. If AAMS Suggest a -3 db Average Compression on Band 1 (0-120Hz), this means you have to setup the compressor and watch the gaindifference on the Output of the compressor. Some Compressor plugins Like Izotope's multiband compressor (Ozone) do show these values and are telling you How much Izone is actually compressing the signal.
If you watch these Values, and get them as close as AAMS suggests, you can setup each Multiband.
Best thing is to select the loudest part of your track inside an audio editor and loop it around while playing, alike Wavelab and run the Multiband Compressor as a plugin, now setup each multiband and adjust the threshold so that it gets near AAMS the Average Compression setting AAMS suggests.

In AAMS V1.5 the Automated Part is EQ, and the suggested parts are for Multiband Compression and Loudness Maximizer (This means a DIY job for the user).
In AAMS V2.0 the Multiband Compressor and Loudness Maximizer are also automated, as well as balancing.
So it will me more complete and will take away all the manual user DIY.
Basically AAMS allready calculates Spatial Fields, but however your suggestion to clearify for each band is quite good, think ill implement that!
To me Reverb and Delay or any other effects are better to be done before you master a track, so are not really a Mastering Job. However maybe later in 2006 these will be added, just now AAMS concentrates on getting the mastering job easyer.

Hope you understand this, and it's important to know with AAMS V1.5. If not just await AAMS V2.0 and see if automated mastering works for you...

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thanks for the clarification :)

"Before using Loudness (Loudness Maximizer etc.) be sure you'd done EQ and Multiband Compression beforehand." that was my approach already, just wanted to make sure. :oops:

regarding the compression ratio question, i was just wondering if i just hadn't seen the 'ratio' option in the c4/linband. no this is clear, too. thanks!

"Basically AAMS allready calculates Spatial Fields, but however your suggestion to clearify for each band is quite good, think ill implement that!"

that would be great! :love:
Last edited by loopdon on Wed Dec 14, 2005 5:02 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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will there be a price increase when version 2 gets released?
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DenisvanderVelde wrote:AAMS V2.0 will be released on 1 Jan 2006, AAMS V1.0 was released on 1 jan 2005 , so i thought it would be nice to release AAMS V2.0 at the same New Years Day... :oops:
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DenisvanderVelde wrote:AAMS V2.0 will be released on 1 Jan 2006, AAMS V1.0 was released on 1 jan 2005 , so i thought it would be nice to release AAMS V2.0 at the same New Years Day... :oops:
Denis, could you please sort my registration out? I have emailed you twice now, no reply. I need to reinstall but need my codes. Please pm me ...
http://chrisamusic.bandcamp.com/
"It's square to be hip"
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That's funny, he's always very fast with replies to me. You should get it fixed very soon. Remember: he's got his own forum also at www.curioza.com which me might respond to more quickly.
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Well Manc Chriss, i don't have you in my database in that name so if your registred user you should know how to contact me about it.

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Well the price of AAMS V2.0 is not set yet, but i do recommend following the inflation rate. :oops: 8)
And Registred users of AAMS 1.x get their registration for AAMS V2.0 free.
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DenisvanderVelde wrote:Well Manc Chriss, i don't have you in my database in that name so if your registred user you should know how to contact me about it.

:help: :roll:
I am indeed a registered user Denis, but not under that name. I'll pm you ...
http://chrisamusic.bandcamp.com/
"It's square to be hip"
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Hello,

For anyone who uses the product, I just found out that AAMS 2.0 will be released at the very end of January.

www.curioza.com

It looks like some new features for v2.0 are:

* Full 'one button' on the fly mastering, with the addition of 2 new effects.
* DSP-Compressor
* DSP-Loudness
* Manual or Automatic Mastering ('On the Fly' with a single button)
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Rabban wrote:Hello,

For anyone who uses the product, I just found out that AAMS 2.0 will be released at the very end of January.

www.curioza.com

It looks like some new features for v2.0 are:

* Full 'one button' on the fly mastering, with the addition of 2 new effects.
* DSP-Compressor
* DSP-Loudness
* Manual or Automatic Mastering ('On the Fly' with a single button)
Yeah, I've been using this since the beginning, pretty much; really looking forward to this, because the developer is cutsom-coding his own mutliband compressor and loudness maximizer (and has already coded and implemented his own 100-band EQ!), and he really knows his stuff.

I know a lot of people will oppose it reflexively, but I've found AAMS to be a perfectly good tool for getting more clarity from mixes and even to learn about what's wrong with your mixes - especially for those like me who have to deliver mastered audio, from the ground up.

Anyway, can't wait!
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Ive never heard of it but im gonnaa give it a try.

Im a huge fan of Har-bal so ill see what this thing can do.
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Doug1 wrote:Ive never heard of it but im gonnaa give it a try.

Im a huge fan of Har-bal so ill see what this thing can do.
Yeah, check it out. You don't have to manually adjust the EQ, and it will provide suggestions for multiband and limiting (can't remember if HarBal does that...I do wish they'd remove that 8-bit limitation from their demo :roll:)
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