KVR Audio

jalfonso1 · Post by **jalfonso1** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 3:35 pm

Does anyone know if there is a plugin that exists to create the effect of distance? What I'm looking for exactly would be a vst with a knob, where the more you turn it the farther away it sounds. Or turn it the other way and it seems to get closer.
Not sure if anything like this exists, but if so I would appreciate suggestions.

Thanks

loophead · Post by **loophead** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 3:44 pm

Yes it is called reverberation. A properly designed implimentation will allow you to create this 'distance' you hear in your head. You do not need a long RT-60 (tail) to get this.

Also delay, filtering and phase manipulation will do this but you might not find the effect drastic enough to perceive the sound you are actually after.

Megakazbek · Post by **Megakazbek** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 5:09 pm

Try WaveArts Panorama - it is very similar to what you're looking for.

Entheogen · Post by **Entheogen** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 5:45 pm

Maybe a contour plugin like 4front contour max would help too.. jacking up the low contour and killing the high is an easy way to get the sound involved with "party next door"

That being said, are there any reverb plugins that continue playing (without any artifacts) while you turn the predelay up?

JackDark · Post by **JackDark** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 7:02 pm

You might like the SpaceStation by Oli Larkin.

pluginnow · Post by **pluginnow** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 9:08 pm

Or if you know what you're doing, play with phase, and you'll get there.

Sickle · Post by **Sickle** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 9:22 pm

JackDark wrote:You might like the SpaceStation by Oli Larkin.

GREAT plugin.

Hunter · Post by **Hunter** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 9:24 pm

I asked a similair question a while back if you use the search you should find it. Spacestation looks interesting, thats a new one ot me

Sickle · Post by **Sickle** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 9:27 pm

He's got a series of Sheppard-Risset tone generators that are pretty excellent, too..

Oli's a great plug designer..

Sickle · Post by **Sickle** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 9:40 pm

You might also want to try a very short delay for it's echo potentials. As I understand it, the human ear will not recognize a reverberation/echo reflected back from a distance of less than 56 ft, but past that point, you will image/hear the 'sense' of space. Using this information, if you wanted to get crazy about it, you could grab take a stab at designing your own spaces. There's a few VST's that will do this that don't jump out in memory, but you can try Voxengo's Impulse Modeler:

http://www.voxengo.com/product/imodeler/

The resulting Impulse Responses could then be loaded into the IR reader of your choice, ie: Pristine Space or Eleveyta's Spaceboy..Both are excellent.

Automate the mix between two loaded IR'sand you have your moving sense of space.

JackDark · Post by **JackDark** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 9:43 pm

I agree that Oli is a -fantastic- plugin designer. It saddens me how non-well known his stuff is. Genius guy, really.

jalfonso1 · Post by **jalfonso1** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:52 pm

cool..I'll try those suggestions out for sure
Thanks a lot!

lawapa · Post by **lawapa** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 12:39 am

Any impulse or convolution type can if the proper acoustic model is used can give good space with detail. that and eq can give the impression of distance from soundsource. As the source is farther away High freaquency drops off accordingly. I use Acoustic mirror in soundforge. Good space models from different distances. Anything from across the room to across the stage. And with good effect. But Voxengo has the same type plugin in Prefect space. You then only need to pick a space and adjust to distance with wet/dry settings. And to fine tune roll off the high freq's

diverdee · Post by **diverdee** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 1:59 am

Maybe something like Cakewalk/Ultrafunks fx:surround from the sonitus bundle?
doppler & distance effects, zooming in & out etc.

deaf dunderkwac · Post by **deaf dunderkwac** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:08 am

diverdee wrote:Maybe something like Cakewalk/Ultrafunks fx:surround from the sonitus bundle?
doppler & distance effects, zooming in & out etc.

whew... that would cover the basis, because as a sound source moves the tone changes.
the amount of 'verb defines the space, the humidity and other environmental conditions.

And as someone earlier mentioned, the high frequencies fall (literally) with distance, so eq is the last part of the equation.

Space or distance effect