Survey = What FX do YOU want most in 2006?

[arke]

a really good VST wah-wah pedal

uum ... a resonant filter?

[CypherOne]

The Lynx effect without the cheap smell.

[ghost666]

Amps, Amps, Amps...

[Shane Sanders]

I sort of built the effect I wanted using eXT. I basically piped a nice synth pad into 5 instances of a bandsplitter (being careful to cull out some tight & independent freqs), then piped each of those bands into a filter and then each into its own instance of DFX Skidder (a gate with a lot of features). Then each of those went to various FX. By the time I was finished, my machine was about to belly-up but it was a truly an ambient intelligence going on in there. I sat mesmerized for a while as the lines dripped into one another.

I would like to have this same effect in a tidier, more efficient form.

[ouroboros]

voted other - a more advanced version of supatrigga, (kvr labels it as an audio reorderer) that saves the patterns it creates, or allows you to save the patterns easily as midis, there's a work around to do this, but it's long.

that is a really cool idea!

I basically piped a nice synth pad into 5 instances of a bandsplitter (being careful to cull out some tight & independent freqs), then piped each of those bands into a filter and then each into its own instance of DFX Skidder (a gate with a lot of features). Then each of those went to various FX. By the time I was finished, my machine was about to belly-up but it was a truly an ambient intelligence going on in there. I sat mesmerized for a while as the lines dripped into one another.

That is a scary idea

The new mixer in FL6 can do that too now, no? Mebbe w/ less cpu?[/quote]

[kritikon]

kritikon wrote:


Horses for courses, I suppose. All I can say is that I wouldn't even scrape your standard host reverb off the sole of my shoes. If you're into reverbs, there is a huge difference between quality and standard. And most native ones are standard at best.



You do a fine job of dismissing them without either specifying what's wrong, or listing what you would use instead.

No reverb plugin will give you anything close to what the lucky guy has, who has turned a big old church into a house/jam room/studio.

I don't dismiss anything without at least trying it first. I tried most of them and I don't like them. I haven't got the time to list all the things I don't like about most native reverbs. Briefly, they usually either sound too thin or too metallic when used on any more than one channel. Or the other major flaw is they sound like enveloped white noise. Individually some can sound OK-ish, but when they're layered up over several channels the nasty character shines through. The ones that sometimes get close often just don't have enough in the way of paramters to fine tune them. Damping etc is often just simple shelving Eq and is over the whole reverb. Envelopes are generally sadly overlooked - especially in the case of early reflections. Gating seems to be a rarity. Front/rear seems to be completely missed out. Even the basics such as having specific algorithms tailored to things like tiled rooms, chambers, halls seem to be a rarity too. The list is endless.

What I use instead? Mostly convolution. Or h/w. Or both. I've still got an old Lexicon Alex...that's well out of date, lacks in real flexibility but still outdoes almost all native reverbs in terms of lushness. And it's based on the old 480L chip...which is eons old and you'd think would be old hat by now. In terms of quality h/w it is. Native reverb is mostly still stuck in the 80s (90s if I were to be kind). And it struggles against old 80s decent h/w reverbs.
I have a 90s top range Digitech semi-modular FX thing...it's pretty poor in comparison to Lexicon, Eventide etc, but even that one has lusher halls and more realistic rooms and chambers than most native reverbs.

It can be done, but it just isn't. Princeton make very decent reverbs but they use PACE. UAD do an excellent EMT plate - it's only VST s/w FX on a card - nothing that can't be done on a PC natively - it would possibly flog the CPU, but it can be done and it could be rendered to save CPU - I'd pay a good price for something quality like those, but all the others I've tested fall woefully short.


Is that enough expansion for you?

[tangentmusic]

a vst/dx plugin that loads other vst effects,so that they can be routed in different configurations/order,giving different end results(think u may be able to do this in some sequencers not in cubase though),

also new the next ohmforce plugin ,where are you????

[shamann]

a vst/dx plugin that loads other vst effects,so that they can be routed in different configurations/order,giving different end results(think u may be able to do this in some sequencers not in cubase though)

Have you tried energyXT for this?

also new the next ohmforce plugin ,where are you????

It will be a monstruous distortion called Postdatohm.

[foosnark]

a vst/dx plugin that loads other vst effects,so that they can be routed in different configurations/order,giving different end results(think u may be able to do this in some sequencers not in cubase though),

Xlutop Chainer

It's always serial with that one, but still pretty nifty.

[Hunter]

The Lynx effect without the cheap smell.

My local bargain store sells something called "Tusk" which is cheaper than Lynx and looks similiar. Strangely it is also on the insect-control aisle, and with the paint stripper, and meths, and

[blortblort]

Another vote for dBlue's Glitch V2. That guy's a genius!

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...what happens when one genius calls another one a genius?

[Kriminal]

a really good VST wah-wah pedal

uum ... a resonant filter?

umm ...no, a really good VST wah-wah pedal.

[Barf]

a really good VST wah-wah pedal

uum ... a resonant filter?

umm ...no, a really good VST wah-wah pedal.

Yes

[opia]

I voted other
the 'other' vst to be more specific
some thing that would impart a bit of otherness to every track

subtlety is the key

[Liquidclear]

I want something that makes everything more nicer sounding.

Or an effect that can do chorus/phase/flange with a ton of modulation and dynamic possibilities.