Does anyone know an EQ plug that is midi-NOTE controllable

[Roman Empire]

This might be a really stupid question, but I´m not 100 % sure about how this plugin works. I´ve figured out the basics of how knockout works, but this one seems like a different thing:

Would it be possible to play the vocal content as a melody from a song with a very thick sound which covers the frequency range of the vocalist, and that way manage to remove the vocals?
I guess it´s not that simple, but I thought I´d ask

[Space Boy]

Would it be possible to play the vocal content as a melody from a song with a very thick sound which covers the frequency range of the vocalist, and that way manage to remove the vocals?
I guess it´s not that simple, but I thought I´d ask

You mean like 'Space Boy' can do.

i.e. melody on Tx and ensemble on Rx.

Mute the Tx instance and let the melody harmonics make a hole in the spectrum of the ensemble.

Viola, drastically reduced vocals!

I'll be introducing an improved version of this with a preset in the next release.

[Roman Empire]

Hi Elevayta

Didn´t know spaceboy could do this. Was playing around with the demo long time ago, but mostly saw it as an experimental tool for creating very unique sounds.
I´ll look forward till the next release and maybe purchase it if I see it able to do this. It´s actually for vocal isolation that I´ll be using it, and prolly it´ll be better for this than Extra Boy?
I´m not saying that Extra Boy is bad, it does what can be done using centre removal technique as good as it´s possible I guess, but nevertheless it´d be nice with something better for vocal isolation - and I don´t mind working a bit with playing the vocal melody on my keyboard. Just wondering how it´ll treat crescendo and such.
One idea would be that you first have extra boy isolating the vocal. Then a melody-to-midi tool (I know there are some of those outthere of which the reputation is not so bad, and for sure you´ll be able to do one as well) that would also detect the crescendo of a vocalist, and then use this melody together with space boy to get rid of the vocal, and finally subtract this from the original file.
If you could make ONE plugin for this, you´d become famous!

[Space Boy]

Hi Elevayta

Didn´t know spaceboy could do this. Was playing around with the demo long time ago, but mostly saw it as an experimental tool for creating very unique sounds.

I think you confuse Space Boy with Clone Boy. Space Boy is very popular and a basic tool for quite a large number of people (i.e. it is certainly well past the experimental stage).

Yes, combination of Extra Boy and Space Boy is quite powerful. Pretty soon I will also have Extra Boy Pro available (cannot say more at this time).

[Roman Empire]

Hi Elevayta

Didn´t know spaceboy could do this. Was playing around with the demo long time ago, but mostly saw it as an experimental tool for creating very unique sounds.

I think you confuse Space Boy with Clone Boy. Space Boy is very popular and a basic tool for quite a large number of people (i.e. it is certainly well past the experimental stage).

Yes, combination of Extra Boy and Space Boy is quite powerful. Pretty soon I will also have Extra Boy Pro available (cannot say more at this time).

Sorry, what I ment with experimental was simply what I found usage for when I tried it, not the stage at which the program was - I had no problems with it when I tried, as far as I remember.

Really looking forward then to your next release!!!!

Btw, if you´ll ever need to put up some vocal removal demos, I can provide you with some dancepop-songs I made some years ago that you can use for no cost.
It´d be the right stuff for demonstrating this functionality of your tool, because the vocalist does not sound, should I say, too inspired

[Roman Empire]

Hi Elevayta

Didn´t know spaceboy could do this. Was playing around with the demo long time ago, but mostly saw it as an experimental tool for creating very unique sounds.

I think you confuse Space Boy with Clone Boy. Space Boy is very popular and a basic tool for quite a large number of people (i.e. it is certainly well past the experimental stage).

Yes, combination of Extra Boy and Space Boy is quite powerful. Pretty soon I will also have Extra Boy Pro available (cannot say more at this time).

Hi again.
I just downloaded Space Boy to try what you said, but got no difference in the output at all.
I did excactly what you said, and tried modifying all parameters afterwards but had no luck.
I then tried with Clone Boy instead - yes, you´re right, that I confused Space Boy with - just to see if I was able to get any sort of result with that one, so that I knew I´d set up Space Boy the right way. I got results with Clone Boy immidiately, having it set up excactly as Space Boy - Tx for the melody, Rx for the full arrangement.
This way btw, I also found out that I got something sounding very much like the famous Cher-effect!
Nevertheless, I still got my problem with Space Boy... any advice or hints?

[Space Boy]

The effect is very limited with the demo version of Space Boy (a very early version). I just updated all my customers with V2.07 which includes a 'Hyper-Space' option for the 'Space Depth' slider. This basically overdrives the space depth and makes it possible to knock out (severely supress) specific frequencies from one track to the next.

I'll try and put together a demo.

[Roman Empire]

The effect is very limited with the demo version of Space Boy (a very early version). I just updated all my customers with V2.07 which includes a 'Hyper-Space' option for the 'Space Depth' slider. This basically overdrives the space depth and makes it possible to knock out (severely supress) specific frequencies from one track to the next.

I'll try and put together a demo.

Ok, so maybe you should get rid of where it says that the demo is fully functional for 35 days? I mean, it may be fully functional as the early version its in, but many people could get fooled to think that there´s not so much you can do with this plug.
I don´t blame you of course.. you´re a one man company, and not all can be perfect. The best thought would be if you made it fully functional as the latest versions, so we can actually try to do what you´re telling here.
Thanks for your fast response!

[Uncle E]

spacedad's suggestion is a good one. If you do have the original vocal track, maybe you can just phase invert it so it cancels out the vocal on the mix. I've never tried it but phase cancellation works well for other jobs.

Going back to your original idea, any notch filter that can be controlled by CC will work, simply use the note to cc midi plug-in to control it.

[Space Boy]

Ok, so maybe you should get rid of where it says that the demo is fully functional for 35 days? I mean, it may be fully functional as the early version its in, but many people could get fooled to think that there´s not so much you can do with this plug.

Actually, the demo is fully functional, given the functionality available at the time. It is certainly functional enough to demonstrate its main purpose. Space Boy was not originally intended for the task that is the topic of this thread. I added a feature now that my customers can benefit from. I don't advertise that feature on my web page or in the features associated with Space Boy. I take the risk that it gets passed over.

Extra Boy Lite is actually the best tool (at the moment) for the job of removing the vocal line (when you don't have the solo vocals at hand).

Original Music & Vocal

Vocal Only

Vocal Removal Using Space Boy New Feature

Vocal Removal Using Extra Boy Lite

Vocal Removal Using Phase Inversion of Vocal Line added to original (of course it works almost perfect)

[Roman Empire]

Ok, so maybe you should get rid of where it says that the demo is fully functional for 35 days? I mean, it may be fully functional as the early version its in, but many people could get fooled to think that there´s not so much you can do with this plug.

Actually, the demo is fully functional, given the functionality available at the time. It is certainly functional enough to demonstrate its main purpose. Space Boy was not originally intended for the task that is the topic of this thread. I added a feature now that my customers can benefit from. I don't advertise that feature on my web page or in the features associated with Space Boy. I take the risk that it gets passed over.

Extra Boy Lite is actually the best tool (at the moment) for the job of removing the vocal line (when you don't have the solo vocals at hand).

Original Music & Vocal

Vocal Only

Vocal Removal Using Space Boy New Feature

Vocal Removal Using Extra Boy Lite

Vocal Removal Using Phase Inversion of Vocal Line added to original (of course it works almost perfect)

So what´s new in Extra Boy Lite that makes it better than the old Extra Boy?
Making an instrumental I could also use knockout for - or invert the phase in Wavelab - if I had the original vocal track. But what about what we were talking about: Playing the tones of the vocalist, following him/her very accurately, and then use that with Space Boy to make an instrumental... could you maybe give an example of how well that would turn out - or perhaps we misunderstood eachother earlier on when talking about this?

[wikter]

Well... I think there are some Pluggo plugins that can do that work, at this moment i'm searching and d'loadin some, but I think it will be a hard work to test/classify each one... there's a long list of weird effects.

[Space Boy]

But what about what we were talking about: Playing the tones of the vocalist, following him/her very accurately, and then use that with Space Boy to make an instrumental... could you maybe give an example of how well that would turn out - or perhaps we misunderstood eachother earlier on when talking about this?

You provide me with the two audio files i.e. the track including vocals and a track with the tones of the vocalist. I'll run it through Space Boy.

How about that?

[Roman Empire]

But what about what we were talking about: Playing the tones of the vocalist, following him/her very accurately, and then use that with Space Boy to make an instrumental... could you maybe give an example of how well that would turn out - or perhaps we misunderstood eachother earlier on when talking about this?

You provide me with the two audio files i.e. the track including vocals and a track with the tones of the vocalist. I'll run it through Space Boy.

How about that?

Good stuff mate! Will you be using it on your webspaec to demonstrate, cause then I´ll give ya something that - for this purpose - is royaltyfree, or will you just do it "for me", so I could give you like anything?
It won´t be till tomorrow or so I think, cause I´ll be busy working and partying today

Cheers, and merry christmas!

[Space Boy]

Will you be using it on your webspaec to demonstrate, cause then I´ll give ya something that - for this purpose - is royaltyfree, or will you just do it "for me", so I could give you like anything?
It won´t be till tomorrow or so I think, cause I´ll be busy working and partying today

Cheers, and merry christmas!

For now, we test it offline. It won't go on my webspace. You can mail me the files or a link or something.

Take your time - I'm kinda' busy myself also.

Merry Christmas! to you too.