Where does music fit into your ideas of spirituality?

[Vervil]

You people clearly have it too easy if you have nothing better to do than think about shit like this.

What I mean is that if you have nothing better to do with your time than think aobut krap like that, it is because you have it way too easy. Meanwhile, teh rest of the world is expending the greater amount of it's individual thought processes just trying to stay alive. I would hope never to feel so comfortable in life that I would have time for that kind of idle speculation.

While you have free time to write krap like this and spending time writing music the rest of the world has to fight to stay alive. Only difference is that you don't have enough objectivety and respect to people that see world thru different eyes. And one of the gifts civilization gave us is to have enough of free time to do whatever we see fit, and maybe work to make ourselves better.

Then there is krap like this:

I believe in God and that he created all of us (including me of course).

Why the hell you people feel the need to believe that your life is part of some great plan is totally beyond me.

Why the hell you feel need to belive that your life is no part of the whole, and that you are individual existence that will dissapear at the end (without any real proof) is really beyond me.

W

e are little different from dirt and our exisitence has, at best, no more significance.

I am quite different than dirt, and I give more significance to living organisms that are self-aware and are able to feel, think and create. Even if there is no god, being able to create makes us very god-alike. Anyway if you really feel no different than dirt, don't waste your time on synths anymore, we can use you as a manure for plants or something like that. You have all the freedom to define yourself as you like.

Mind you, to a greater or lesser extent this seems to be something that everyone else feels so maybe its just a human thing, who knows? Bu tmy life has no greater meaning or purpose than that which I assign to it and me, being no better than dirt, can hardly assign it meaning or purpose of any real significance whatsoever. So what?

I don't like people having empty philosophies like yours. First of all, you are telling lies. You do so much things that show that you think that you ae better and more intelligent than most of people, that you know better, etc. You work hard to achive your goals, every line you write screams "I am SO SPECIAL". You are not humble at all. Far from dust. So all you can do is to be living proof that someone can sell some kind of personal nihilistic philosophy just like one more medal that is making him smarter than others.
Also , I am sure that your answer at my post will be also far from your words, very individualistic, agressive and arrogant. Even if you don't write anything, that was your first reaction for sure.

If you are no better than dust, than stand up to that idea, and stop acting like a prick, for (unexisting) gods sake. Other people have also very good reasons to think the way they think, they also have extreme experiences, they can be even more intelligent talented and capable than you or me, and at the same time have views we both could disagree about.

Peace and love life-endangered dust-man

[Meffy]

shaman,i am.

Do you like green eggs and spam?

[vurt]

i am not sam
i do not like green eggs and ham (spam?)

[hoffy]

What a stupid f**king thread.

so why did you read it?

I didn't; I just wanted to add my 2 cents.

Anyway. What sort of fuckwit sits around and thinks "I wonder what other people on internet forums think about how music fits into their ideas of spirtuality"?

Some people just have too much time on their hands.

What a stupid f**king thread.

[BONES]

Only difference is that you don't have enough objectivety and respect to people that see world thru different eyes.

In this day and age everyone forgets that respect is somethign which must be earned. It was one of the first things they taught us as officer cadets.
[quoteWhy the hell you feel need to belive that your life is no part of the whole, and that you are individual existence that will dissapear at the end (without any real proof) is really beyond me.[/quote]
How else could it possibly be? I don't need any proof that my turds end up in the deep ocean outfalls after I flush the toilet, it just makes sense that they would.

I am quite different than dirt, and I give more significance to living organisms that are self-aware and are able to feel, think and create.

Why?

Even if there is no god, being able to create makes us very god-alike.

You cannot create plants without dirt so dirt is actually quite creative too.

You do so much things that show that you think that you ae better and more intelligent than most of people, that you know better, etc.

Well, of course I do, I am completely unencumbered by your stupid, human foibles.

You work hard to achive your goals

No, I don't. I work hard to fill my days, I have no ambition. Ambition is a symptom of the default human condition - a deep-seated feeling of inferiority which manifests itself in a need to achieve anything. I'm quite happy just to do my thing.

If you are no better than dust, than stand up to that idea, and stop acting like a prick, for (unexisting) gods sake. Other people have also very good reasons to think the way they think, they also have extreme experiences, they can be even more intelligent talented and capable than you or me, and at the same time have views we both could disagree about.

What does that even mean? That other opinions are valid but mine, by default, cannot be? That doesn't seem to gel with the general thrust of your post.

[a]

What I mean is that if you have nothing better to do with your time than think aobut krap like that, it is because you have it way too easy. Meanwhile, teh rest of the world is expending the greater amount of it's individual thought processes just trying to stay alive.
I would hope never to feel so comfortable in life that I would have time for that kind of idle speculation.

But you have time for your music mate.

So you think they have their heads up their arses - fair enough. But really - I'm sure many people can't see why you would 'waste' hundereds of hours making your music.

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[The Chase]

What a stupid f**king thread.

so why did you read it?

I didn't; I just wanted to add my 2 cents.

Anyway. What sort of fuckwit sits around and thinks "I wonder what other people on internet forums think about how music fits into their ideas of spirtuality"?

Some people just have too much time on their hands.

What a stupid f**king thread.

It's called a civilization. A place where humans exchange ideas, deep and obvious. If you truely think you dont have the time for that, or you arent willing to spend the time on it, then trust me when I say that you will feel silly when you are old if you have gone through life with such an attitude.

Probably doesnt mean shit coming from a teenager. Just my ONE cent.

[Hink]

What a stupid f**king thread.

so why did you read it?

I didn't; I just wanted to add my 2 cents.

Anyway. What sort of fuckwit sits around and thinks "I wonder what other people on internet forums think about how music fits into their ideas of spirtuality"?

Some people just have too much time on their hands.

What a stupid f**king thread.

the hypocrisy in your words are impossible to ignore...

[djsubject]

the devine being is real

but we are all put here to make our own choices

it seems meny here have been fooled by the system all ready

all i will say is when the fake god comes & showes you heven its a trick & you will know this fake god by it one eye

a bit like the one eye on the 20 dolla bill

Subz

[vurt]

errrrrr hmmmmmmm nnnnnnnn...
:bites tounge:

[androidlove]

holy crap (pun there) this thread is about how ppl trip out on music. ppl call experiences of the brain and nervous system "spiritual" if it feels good. pain killers are spiritual. i read the title as "how do you trip out on music?". at least "spiritual" connotes "sumpin weird i caint splain happnin" and not "my god did this for me because he loves me and promises my little confused life will make sense after my (gasp) death". at least "spiritual" doesn't bring "god" with it. relax you nutty atheists and watch the show. it's cheaper than cable

[androidlove]

the devine being is real

but we are all put here to make our own choices

it seems meny here have been fooled by the system all ready

all i will say is when the fake god comes & showes you heven its a trick & you will know this fake god by it one eye

a bit like the one eye on the 20 dolla bill

Subz

please don't expose mr winky

[Reverend Rhythm]

I'm glad I didn't post my views.
Gotta go, Jerry Falwell is coming on.

[FaX]

What a stupid f**king thread.

so why did you read it?

I didn't; I just wanted to add my 2 cents.

Anyway. What sort of fuckwit sits around and thinks wonder what other people on internet forums think about how music fits into their ideas of spirtuality"?

Some people just have too much time on their hands.

What a stupid f**king thread.

It's called a civilization. A place where humans exchange ideas, deep and obvious. If you truely think you dont have the time for that, or you arent willing to spend the time on it, then trust me when I say that you will feel silly when you are old if you have gone through life with such an attitude.

Probably doesnt mean shit coming from a teenager. Just my ONE cent.

Actually it means a great deal coming from a teenager.
If Hoffy cannot even see the utter and total irony in
posting such a non opinion in a thread that means "nothing" anyway ....well what can I say really.
People like Bones at least have an opinion on the matter.
It isn't a case of wether or not I agree with their opinion.
Our thought processes are all unique and derived from a culmination of social , cultural , spiritual , ideologgical and phylosophical phenomina which is unique to each and everyone of us as individuals.
One just doesn't show what a " a stupid f**king thread" it is by posting or even gracing it with a reply.
If it's such a non event why bother.
Honestly it's a fair question to pose , ponder and discuss.
Spirituality is a pretty personal thing and how it affects our daily life (however subliminally), yes even on a subconscious level as individuals is an interesting subject in and of itself.
You may be a "teenager" Chase but you're a "teenager" who is more than willing to think for himself.
Don't sell yourself short just because your life experience is shorter than others.
It is no less valid or important irrespective of age or life experience.
All the more power too you I say.
This thread has made for some very good reading I might add.

[androidlove]

subsection b: how do you trip out on music?