FL6 is Extremely Frustrating

[mbell]

Have you tried disabling the on-board soundcard in the bios, and using another audio card/interface of any kind?

[The Chase]

Have you tried disabling the on-board soundcard in the bios, and using another audio card/interface of any kind?

I dont have any laying around as I dont (shouldnt) have use for one.

[arke]

Le Chase ...

You don't need Norton Antivirus. I take care of my computer very well. I haven't run Antivirus or Antispyware or even a Firewall in 2 years except maybe once every 4 months to see if there was anything on it. As a result, I have been spyware and virus free for over 2 years.

If you want me to help you out in that respect, let me know and I can give you some tips so that you don't have to run Norton (which really does kill performance and stability).

Muff Wiggler, onboard sound is fine, I'm getting 7ms from my AC'97 and thats just me being on the safe side ... I could probably go down to around 5ms, even with FL6.

[John Vulich]

I'm guessing that if Chase did a clean install of xp without Norton crap, that his problems would vanish.

FL5, and every other audio application I use, works perfectly with Norton as antivirus.

So many cheap shots at norton on the internet, it's annoying. True or not, a cheap shot is still a cheap shot.

I don't think that they are cheap shots. It's just good advice. Why are you getting defensive about a universally acknowledged bad product?

[Cabinfever]

I'm guessing that if Chase did a clean install of xp without Norton crap, that his problems would vanish.

FL5, and every other audio application I use, works perfectly with Norton as antivirus.

So many cheap shots at norton on the internet, it's annoying. True or not, a cheap shot is still a cheap shot.

I don't think that they are cheap shots. It's just good advice. Why are you getting defensive about a universally acknowledged bad product?

"Universally acknowledged" ? Just this thread proves otherwise. (And a few hundred thousand sales)

[John Vulich]

Ok, "almost" universally acknowledged. Better now?

And just because thousand of units have been sold doesn't mean that it's a good app. Especially when they manege to get computer manufacturers to put it on just about every damned OEM disk on the planet.

It just amazes me that anyone bothers to defend Norton. I've just personally seen nothing but trouble from it and there are dozens of better options available.

And were is it "proved otherwise" in this thread anyways? I must have missed that.

[kmonkey]

Huh..In start i have some problems with FL 6 but after i reinstall everything now is fine and even better

[The Chase]

I'm guessing that if Chase did a clean install of xp without Norton crap, that his problems would vanish.

FL5, and every other audio application I use, works perfectly with Norton as antivirus.

So many cheap shots at norton on the internet, it's annoying. True or not, a cheap shot is still a cheap shot.

I don't think that they are cheap shots. It's just good advice. Why are you getting defensive about a universally acknowledged bad product?

Im not, but when the basic trouble-shooting method shows that Norton was obviously not the core problem here, there was no reason to throw that out there.

[james0tucson]

It just amazes me that anyone bothers to defend Norton.

Cognitive dissonance demands it. They paid quite a bit of money for NAV. They also have a certain amount of *fear* of what could happen if they didn't run NAV. Personally, I'd rather have the viruses than Norton. The risks from "Viruses" are greatly exaggerated. Have good reliable backups of your important material. Be able and willing to reinstall your system from scratch. Don't connect a machine which is important to your life, directly to a network. (The ability to reinstall when I want is a big part of my refusal to accept certain DRM schemes.)

It really would not be a huge undertaking for me to ghost my DAW back together from scratch.

[The Chase]

It just amazes me that anyone bothers to defend Norton.

Cognitive dissonance demands it. They paid quite a bit of money for NAV. They also have a certain amount of *fear* of what could happen if they didn't run NAV. Personally, I'd rather have the viruses than Norton. The risks from "Viruses" are greatly exaggerated. Have good reliable backups of your important material. Be able and willing to reinstall your system from scratch. Don't connect a machine which is important to your life, directly to a network. (The ability to reinstall when I want is a big part of my refusal to accept certain DRM schemes.)

It really would not be a huge undertaking for me to ghost my DAW back together from scratch.

I got it for free. Try actually reading my posts, guys.

Im not defending norton. It's just logically obvious that it isnt the problem here. That's all im saying.

[Reverse Engineer]

It just amazes me that anyone bothers to defend Norton.

Cognitive dissonance demands it. They paid quite a bit of money for NAV. They also have a certain amount of *fear* of what could happen if they didn't run NAV. Personally, I'd rather have the viruses than Norton. The risks from "Viruses" are greatly exaggerated. Have good reliable backups of your important material. Be able and willing to reinstall your system from scratch. Don't connect a machine which is important to your life, directly to a network. (The ability to reinstall when I want is a big part of my refusal to accept certain DRM schemes.)

It really would not be a huge undertaking for me to ghost my DAW back together from scratch.

People PAY for NAV? I genuinely thought (outside of the business world) consumers only had this because it came with their computers. You must be lying, who would really be so stupid, oh so very very stupid to actually BUY it?

[ouroboros]

Some more thoughts that might help:
Using ASIO4ALL: there have been some problems with ac97 onboard sound in the past.
Try 2 things (I suppose you probably have, but maybe not):
select "Force WDM to 16bit" and "Use Hardware buffer" set at ~10ms (default).

Most importantly, in advanced mode, unlike simple mode, ASIO4ALL lets more than one device access it; this setting, in either direction (simple or advanced) might help.

Sorry it's so frustrating.

[james0tucson]

It just amazes me that anyone bothers to defend Norton.

Cognitive dissonance demands it. They paid quite a bit of money for NAV. They also have a certain amount of *fear* of what could happen if they didn't run NAV. Personally, I'd rather have the viruses than Norton. The risks from "Viruses" are greatly exaggerated. Have good reliable backups of your important material. Be able and willing to reinstall your system from scratch. Don't connect a machine which is important to your life, directly to a network. (The ability to reinstall when I want is a big part of my refusal to accept certain DRM schemes.)

It really would not be a huge undertaking for me to ghost my DAW back together from scratch.

People PAY for NAV? I genuinely thought (outside of the business world) consumers only had this because it came with their computers. You must be lying, who would really be so stupid, oh so very very stupid to actually BUY it?

The bundled version typically runs for a year, then nags you to subscribe.

[Ebenezer Squeezer]

It really would not be a huge undertaking for me to ghost my DAW back together from scratch.

Uh, would that be Norton Ghost?

[james0tucson]

It really would not be a huge undertaking for me to ghost my DAW back together from scratch.

Uh, would that be Norton Ghost?

No, it would be dd. (edit) dd is a disk dump utility. Nascent installs of Windows2000 and XP can be stored in a relatively compact format. I use DVD-R these days. I have linux-based rescue and backup utilities. I don't expect others to use the same systems I use... however... We bearded hacks from back in time called it "ghosting" before Peter Norton made his first DOS utility.