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Baniev · Post by **Baniev** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 10:43 am

Can some Professions that release music or that work on tonstudios tell me which are the best software mastering effects and what is important in mastering to get a professional sound.

arke · Post by **arke** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 10:45 am

sound forge 8

(yes, I know, evil Sony, but it works great here)

If you have Sound Forge 8, I'll be glad to tell you how I mastered the song in it that I'm gonna put into the Music Cafe in about 30 minutes

Baniev · Post by **Baniev** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 10:55 am

ARKE? O RLY? wrote:sound forge 8

(yes, I know, evil Sony, but it works great here)

If you have Sound Forge 8, I'll be glad to tell you how I mastered the song in it that I'm gonna put into the Music Cafe in about 30 minutes

I havn´t sound forge 8

Baniev · Post by **Baniev** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 11:58 am

I can´t believe that no one answer, what goes with you guys?

BobYordan · Post by **BobYordan** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 12:16 pm

There are alot of mastering plugs around, the best way is to download the demo's and try them out.

http://www.kvraudio.com/get.php?mode=re ... =1&rpp=100

Cheers
Bob

Manc Chris · Post by **Manc Chris** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 12:18 pm

Baniev wrote:I can´t believe that no one answer, what goes with you guys?

The question is too profound. Everyone is exasperated.

lex_strooder · Post by **lex_strooder** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 12:52 pm

Baniev wrote:Can some Professions that release music or that work on tonstudios tell me which are the best software mastering effects and what is important in mastering to get a professional sound.

Do you record orchestra or do you do trance ?
its very dependent on your source and if you need loudness or great dynamics

see this thread for some advice:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1598446

cheers
lX

Baniev · Post by **Baniev** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 12:56 pm

lex_strooder wrote:
Baniev wrote:Can some Professions that release music or that work on tonstudios tell me which are the best software mastering effects and what is important in mastering to get a professional sound.
Do you record orchestra or do you do trance ?
its very dependent on your source and if you need loudness or great dynamics

see this thread for some advice:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1598446

cheers
lX

I do trance, the problem is that i still can´t do my mixes to sound 100% like professional mixes, if someone listen to my stuff and for example astral projection or hallucinogen he will notice that my mixes don´t sound professional. I don´t talk about the used synths, i just talk about the mastering of my tracks. I heard someone hear says something about RMS, can you explain what this is?

lex_strooder · Post by **lex_strooder** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 1:29 pm

Baniev wrote:
lex_strooder wrote:
Baniev wrote:Can some Professions that release music or that work on tonstudios tell me which are the best software mastering effects and what is important in mastering to get a professional sound.
Do you record orchestra or do you do trance ?
its very dependent on your source and if you need loudness or great dynamics

see this thread for some advice:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1598446

cheers
lX
I do trance, the problem is that i still can´t do my mixes to sound 100% like professional mixes, if someone listen to my stuff and for example astral projection or hallucinogen he will notice that my mixes don´t sound professional. I don´t talk about the used synths, i just talk about the mastering of my tracks. I heard someone hear says something about RMS, can you explain what this is?

RMS is almost always refered to how loud your audio is... loudness dependent the system you listening to (car speaker,club system,earphones), so in the mastering process, one have to take into account what systems it will be played on...

to do that you not only need plugins but also different listening gears... and good ears

to start with, take an isratrance or any posford piece and look at it in a audio editor... see how it compares both in eq and loudness to your own work.

then start tweak your eq,comp,expanders,limiters until you are satisfied.

... it will take a while to get a grip on the different processes involved but a 1000 mile trip starts with a step (or somthing)

cheers
lX

Baniev · Post by **Baniev** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 2:00 pm

how can i control the RMS? Do you know tools for that?

lex_strooder · Post by **lex_strooder** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 2:04 pm

Baniev wrote:how can i control the RMS? Do you know tools for that?

use a limiter or compressor (with high ratio)

download some of these free plugs and start tweaking:
http://www.kvraudio.com/get.php?mode=re ... t=1&rpp=15

Klemperer · Post by **Klemperer** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 2:06 pm

I just can say that Soundforge8 is crashing with many many vst-effects, and so maybe not a very reliable solution. The program (I own it since version 6 which was VERY stable, but without the abilities to load VST-effects into it, only directX) has VST-support only since version 8, and Sony managed it rather bad, so I regret my purchase meanwhile, as update 8b didn't make it any better. It IS a very strong program apart from this. So if you look for a reliable solution, also have a look at Adobe Audition, the follower of the old "cool edit pro", or at the (more expensive than Soundforge8) Wavelab. I heard many people complaining about Soundforge8, not only myself

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Neurogen · Post by **Neurogen** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 2:10 pm

I am interested in Rms, i think, iknow its important to have the loudest possible final mix, right? How would i find an rms reading, or how specifically, would i compare spectrally simons work from mine? When i open a song of mine in Evil Sony Forge, i noticed the peaks go through the roof, all the way to the top,, i can fix this now but my question is, is it possible to have a mix with peaks not near the top to be louder than one that is sky high,,,,,hmmm, i assume this is rms? or something similar... And to achieve a higher audio signal you compress with high ratio,,, please point out any fallacies to my reply

vccv · Post by **vccv** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 2:31 pm

Hi!

Just bought me a copy of the book "The Trance Experience" and I found it quite usefull. It covers production techniques in trance, also includes full sessionfiles. Also includes most Waves plugins as 14 days demo.

http://www.sound.org/titles2.html

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 2:43 pm

Neurogen wrote:I am interested in Rms, i think, iknow its important to have the loudest possible final mix, right? How would i find an rms reading, or how specifically, would i compare spectrally simons work from mine? When i open a song of mine in Evil Sony Forge, i noticed the peaks go through the roof, all the way to the top,, i can fix this now but my question is, is it possible to have a mix with peaks not near the top to be louder than one that is sky high,,,,,hmmm, i assume this is rms? or something similar... And to achieve a higher audio signal you compress with high ratio,,, please point out any fallacies to my reply

3 words.

brick-wall-limiter.

Advice on mastering effects