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the_nihilist · Post by **the_nihilist** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:12 am

One that functions essentially the same way as in say... FL? Where you can just tweak the knob, and then "assign last tweaked knob to controller"?

JamminFool · Post by **JamminFool** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:28 am

the_nihilist wrote:One that functions essentially the same way as in say... FL? Where you can just tweak the knob, and then "assign last tweaked knob to controller"?

if you mean for the console (mixer window), then yes, it does.

but not for the transport.

you can control the transport with MMC, though, using (what is called) a Control Surface.

the_nihilist · Post by **the_nihilist** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:00 am

I mean for VST's.

Like say I want to adjust the filter cutoff value without having to go through the increadibly arse-f**ked process of individually assigning them through CC in cubase.

the_nihilist · Post by **the_nihilist** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:22 am

Alright, let me explain in a slightly different way.

Does sonar have a feature that allows you to easily assign parameters in a vst to knobs and sliders on your midi controller keyboard? If so, what would be the process?

I'm asking this, because I've grown more and more frustrated with cubase's lack of features in this regard.

EDIT: Okay, I've downloaded the Sonar demo... I know, I should've done this in the first place.

EDIT 2: Sonar does not have a simple midi learn function.

the_nihilist · Post by **the_nihilist** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:21 am

Alright, I just want to be able to control my cutoff and resonance in softsynths in a multitrack host. I can't figure out how to do it in Cubase SX3. I can't figure out how to do it in sonar 5's demo. I don't want to draw filter sweeps, I want to play them. Is that so much to ask?

Can someone just explain in a clear and consise way how to assign knobs from a midi controller to say... the filter cutoff in synth1, in either sonar or cubase?

EDIT: Well, now I know how to assign stuff to knobs in cubase.

JamminFool · Post by **JamminFool** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:04 pm

the_nihilist wrote:
EDIT 2: Sonar does not have a simple midi learn function.

as i said, the Remote Control (with Learn) is available for widgets in the track and console views.

no love for vst widgets, though.

lowkey · Post by **lowkey** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:32 pm

Hi

Have a look at this...
http://www.cakewalk.com/Tips/TechTipSept01_1.asp

And this...

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/may05/a ... rnotes.htm

Read the fourth paragraph in the "Sonar or Producer" section.

Hope this helps

JamminFool · Post by **JamminFool** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:01 pm

lowkey wrote:Hi
Have a look at this...
http://www.cakewalk.com/Tips/TechTipSept01_1.asp

And this...

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/may05/a ... rnotes.htm

Read the fourth paragraph in the "Sonar or Producer" section.

Hope this helps

hi lowkey,
yes, but that is for controlling params via envelopes and recorded automation.

i think the_nihilist wants to use the knobs and sliders on his midi controller.

Norbert · Post by **Norbert** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 8:51 am

*coff* Abelton Live 5 *coff*

dougsyo · Post by **dougsyo** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 11:45 am

Norbert wrote:*coff* Abelton Live 5 *coff*

What's that got to do with Sonar?

Doug

Norbert · Post by **Norbert** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 12:48 am

Has 'MIDI learn' function for VST paramaters all in one lil' window.

That's the kind of assignment (and simplicity) the OP wants.

soma · Post by **soma** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:42 am

if you have 45 dollars get XT you can use it as your host or as a plugin. Both ways allow midi learn...
http://www.xt-hq.com
Free demo with 1 restriction: no opening saved files (but you can save them until you buy and open them then.)

dougsyo · Post by **dougsyo** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 3:51 am

soma wrote:if you have 45 dollars get XT you can use it as your host or as a plugin. Both ways allow midi learn...
http://www.xt-hq.com

I second the suggestion. EnergyXT VSTI combined with Sonar ie EXTREMELY powerful, and gives you a step sequencer, arpeggiator, chorder, MIDI learn, etc for ANY VSTI.

For these purposes it won't take long to learn... it certainly beats switching hosts, if you've already committed to Sonar.

Doug (committed to Sonar - but also FLS, and P5V2 on the side)

lawapa · Post by **lawapa** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 5:11 am

Can someone just explain in a clear and consise way how to assign knobs from a midi controller to say... the filter cutoff in synth1, in either sonar or cubase?

In Sonar if you have an external controler hooked up and that controler is selected for input on that midi track along with the softsynth and that softsynth knob supports remote control you right click the knob select midi learn from dropdown wiggle knob on controler and blamo.

Also you can edit the parameter you recorded in Piano roll view/controlers view at bottom with the pencil tool TO FINE TUNE the recorded values. I find drawing controlers a much more precise way of editing these values but That's just me.

does sonar have a midi learn function?