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Hink wrote:
androidlove wrote:
Hink wrote:what would the world be like if everyone who could hum a tune become a composer just by pushing a couple buttons?

I have no answer :shrug:...but it poses a quite a lot of questions. What if they developed a tablet you write on. You select a mode, likely named for famous artists and styles. Then all you did was draw something close and it would turn out a flawless drawing based on you mode...would the be any artists at all if everyone was an artist? Would there be any musicians if everyone was a musician? Would it create elitism to the highest form? Or would there be none? :shrug:
wtf? making art and music is for everyone. power to the people!

I'm sorry, did I draw a concluson?


edit....you might start by reading where I said I have no answer ;)
the answer is----whatever puts power in the hands of the people is good
"Most people who experiment with drugs are not lying in the streets, suffocating on their own vomit. If you want to see some of that, go to the Pub on Saturday night at closing time." ozwest

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androidlove wrote:
ross g wrote:
androidlove wrote:i was thinking tonight about a sytem like that. weird eh? i was thinking i needed a voice based system to take to work
aren't there things like that in software now? especially monophonic, audio>midi and such?
yea, i just want it in a little pocket unit
i guess i was thinking one could record stuff then transfer it later and do processing...are you thinking of humming into a batt operated unit and it would play a synth or something?
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really, i hadn't thought of going voice>instrument. i was just thinking about a pocket multitrack with punch. i was thinkin i'd make the sounds with my voice :hihi:
"Most people who experiment with drugs are not lying in the streets, suffocating on their own vomit. If you want to see some of that, go to the Pub on Saturday night at closing time." ozwest

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androidlove wrote:really, i hadn't thought of going voice>instrument. i was just thinking about a pocket multitrack with punch. i was thinkin i'd make the sounds with my voice :hihi:
i know zoom makes a nice looking batt operated 4track...
edit, they have a little batt op dealie with a built in mic, i think it's 2track, but now Roland has a new really good looking sampler with a condenser mic that runs on batts, seems like it's got everything you need for a portable unit....or even a studio unit...i think it's called SP-404
Last edited by ross g on Mon Jan 09, 2006 5:10 am, edited 1 time in total.
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androidlove wrote:
Hink wrote:
androidlove wrote:
Hink wrote:what would the world be like if everyone who could hum a tune become a composer just by pushing a couple buttons?

I have no answer :shrug:...but it poses a quite a lot of questions. What if they developed a tablet you write on. You select a mode, likely named for famous artists and styles. Then all you did was draw something close and it would turn out a flawless drawing based on you mode...would the be any artists at all if everyone was an artist? Would there be any musicians if everyone was a musician? Would it create elitism to the highest form? Or would there be none? :shrug:
wtf? making art and music is for everyone. power to the people!

I'm sorry, did I draw a concluson?


edit....you might start by reading where I said I have no answer ;)
the answer is----whatever puts power in the hands of the people is good
the way I see it that's precisely where technology is headed...I have no opinion either way..I can see the benefits for sure, and I would take full advantage of them....but you can't ignore the battle that rages on (one I'm sick of) of so called real musicians and those who just use a computer...(which for the record again, I believe the computer is an instrument) if such a device existed (and someday will) it will surely intensify that battle...I ask will the outcome be better or worse? A valid question, and one with enough varibles I wouldn't even attempt to take a guess...:)
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.

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androidlove wrote:really, i hadn't thought of going voice>instrument. i was just thinking about a pocket multitrack with punch. i was thinkin i'd make the sounds with my voice :hihi:
see I was thinking something for music like my drawing tablet example....a miracle machine...not just a recorder...;)
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.

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Hink wrote:
androidlove wrote:really, i hadn't thought of going voice>instrument. i was just thinking about a pocket multitrack with punch. i was thinkin i'd make the sounds with my voice :hihi:
see I was thinking something for music like my drawing tablet example....a miracle machine...not just a recorder...;)
if a program let you chose instrument, style, etc., and then you just hit "generate" (it's not like these programs don't exist) that would be empowering. unless the generator was around 4 yrs old, i wouldn't bother with the composition. however, these things make many feel as if they're writing music. i want everyone to be able to have that feeling no matter the stage
"Most people who experiment with drugs are not lying in the streets, suffocating on their own vomit. If you want to see some of that, go to the Pub on Saturday night at closing time." ozwest

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androidlove wrote:
Hink wrote:
androidlove wrote:really, i hadn't thought of going voice>instrument. i was just thinking about a pocket multitrack with punch. i was thinkin i'd make the sounds with my voice :hihi:
see I was thinking something for music like my drawing tablet example....a miracle machine...not just a recorder...;)
if a program let you chose instrument, style, etc., and then you just hit "generate" (it's not like these programs don't exist) that would be empowering. unless the generator was around 4 yrs old, i wouldn't bother with the composition. however, these things make many feel as if they're writing music. i want everyone to be able to have that feeling no matter the stage
I'm not disagreeing...;)
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.

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Hink wrote:
androidlove wrote:
Hink wrote:
androidlove wrote:
Hink wrote:what would the world be like if everyone who could hum a tune become a composer just by pushing a couple buttons?

I have no answer :shrug:...but it poses a quite a lot of questions. What if they developed a tablet you write on. You select a mode, likely named for famous artists and styles. Then all you did was draw something close and it would turn out a flawless drawing based on you mode...would the be any artists at all if everyone was an artist? Would there be any musicians if everyone was a musician? Would it create elitism to the highest form? Or would there be none? :shrug:
wtf? making art and music is for everyone. power to the people!

I'm sorry, did I draw a concluson?


edit....you might start by reading where I said I have no answer ;)
the answer is----whatever puts power in the hands of the people is good
the way I see it that's precisely where technology is headed...I have no opinion either way..I can see the benefits for sure, and I would take full advantage of them....but you can't ignore the battle that rages on (one I'm sick of) of so called real musicians and those who just use a computer...(which for the record again, I believe the computer is an instrument) if such a device existed (and someday will) it will surely intensify that battle...I ask will the outcome be better or worse? A valid question, and one with enough varibles I wouldn't even attempt to take a guess...:)
It's still still survival of the fittest in this industry. If everyone was making music like this, the best would still get the most respect and the rest will be considered amatuer or trash. Every generation it seems goes through this "dilema". Art is art. As long as there's enough room for artistic expression in a medium, true genius could emerge.

I am high and feeling poetic, give me a break?

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MadPsyance wrote:industry
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"Most people who experiment with drugs are not lying in the streets, suffocating on their own vomit. If you want to see some of that, go to the Pub on Saturday night at closing time." ozwest

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industry/artform whatever. you know what i mean, huh?

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MadPsyance wrote:artform
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"Most people who experiment with drugs are not lying in the streets, suffocating on their own vomit. If you want to see some of that, go to the Pub on Saturday night at closing time." ozwest

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It's like Power to the People!, but at the same time technological gluttony. But the question is, could you still make something inspiring out of it?

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i have an ok walkman sized cassette my wife gave me, i think it records mono only...i've used it to record shortwave and trucker cb (i'm about half a mile from where I-80/294 meet) with the auto-record function while sleeping...i would be happy to just carry that thing around and hum and sing ideas into it, but i honestly haven't thought of it until now...

EDIT: i've always wanted one of those little Yamaha midi boxes about the size of a video tape...they would be great on a bus, waiting at doctor's office, etc...i've never tried one but they look cool...
Last edited by ross g on Mon Jan 09, 2006 6:12 am, edited 1 time in total.
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people get amazed at the things they make themselves. it could be crap to the rest of humanity
"Most people who experiment with drugs are not lying in the streets, suffocating on their own vomit. If you want to see some of that, go to the Pub on Saturday night at closing time." ozwest

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