are we becoming a headphone society?
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- KVRAF
- 4908 posts since 10 Aug, 2004 from Colorado Springs
In response to the original question - we became a headphone society when Sony introduced the walkman 25 years ago. That was when the devices; headphones that is; became typical outside of the home and/or recording studio.
We've never looked back since. Usage did drop off, I believe, when CD's started to overcome cassettes here in the US, but now with portable digital players; iPods and wannabees, their use is endemic to society.
But I believe the change happened 25 years ago, not just with the iPod generation.
BTW, the military use of noise beams was implemented just recently on some pirates off the coast of Africa not too long ago. Here's an article:
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/techi ... last_x.htm
There are also some speaker manufacturers that use sound transmitted on ultrasonic carrier waves, to set up acoustic holograms. I believe that Monsoon audio marketed these a couple years back. Here's an article on that topic.
http://www.acoustics.org/press/133rd/2pea.html
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technol ... page=2&c=y
-Scott
We've never looked back since. Usage did drop off, I believe, when CD's started to overcome cassettes here in the US, but now with portable digital players; iPods and wannabees, their use is endemic to society.
But I believe the change happened 25 years ago, not just with the iPod generation.
BTW, the military use of noise beams was implemented just recently on some pirates off the coast of Africa not too long ago. Here's an article:
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/techi ... last_x.htm
There are also some speaker manufacturers that use sound transmitted on ultrasonic carrier waves, to set up acoustic holograms. I believe that Monsoon audio marketed these a couple years back. Here's an article on that topic.
http://www.acoustics.org/press/133rd/2pea.html
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technol ... page=2&c=y
-Scott
- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
do you remember quadraphonic headphones back in the 70's? You're right though, early 80's every jogger started wearing headphones, you could get headphone radios...you could get rockman's, chain them together and everyone could hear each other....when the technology broke through and they could make a player just a bit larger then a tape things changed quite a bit...I remember a guy got busted here in the mid 80's for a huge quantity of coke, the reason the cop stopped him was because he was wearing headphones...rockstar_not wrote:In response to the original question - we became a headphone society when Sony introduced the walkman 25 years ago. That was when the devices; headphones that is; became typical outside of the home and/or recording studio.
We've never looked back since. Usage did drop off, I believe, when CD's started to overcome cassettes here in the US, but now with portable digital players; iPods and wannabees, their use is endemic to society.
But I believe the change happened 25 years ago, not just with the iPod generation.
BTW, the military use of noise beams was implemented just recently on some pirates off the coast of Africa not too long ago. Here's an article:
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/techi ... last_x.htm
There are also some speaker manufacturers that use sound transmitted on ultrasonic carrier waves, to set up acoustic holograms. I believe that Monsoon audio marketed these a couple years back. Here's an article on that topic.
http://www.acoustics.org/press/133rd/2pea.html
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technol ... page=2&c=y
-Scott
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
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- KVRAF
- 6596 posts since 21 Jun, 2004 from Secret Underground Hideout
WOW!!!! CAN YOU HEAR THIS?!?! THIS IS REALLY LOUD!!!! YOU CAN'T HEAR THIS?!?!rockstar_not wrote:we became a headphone society when Sony introduced the walkman 25 years ago.
"Most people who experiment with drugs are not lying in the streets, suffocating on their own vomit. If you want to see some of that, go to the Pub on Saturday night at closing time." ozwest
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- KVRian
- 1258 posts since 25 Nov, 2003 from London
The amount of users on the tubes is quite frightening - I reckon about 1 in 10!
I'm lucky that my phone i use to play mp3s is very quiet in comparison to some players I've heard.
I'm lucky that my phone i use to play mp3s is very quiet in comparison to some players I've heard.
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- KVRAF
- 6596 posts since 21 Jun, 2004 from Secret Underground Hideout
is it my imagination, or did walkmans go downhill after the 1st 2 models?
"Most people who experiment with drugs are not lying in the streets, suffocating on their own vomit. If you want to see some of that, go to the Pub on Saturday night at closing time." ozwest
- Suspended
- 17889 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere you're not!
Or maybe we should just be producing good mixes that will work wherever?P.T. wrote:If everyone is mostly listening to their music on headphones through ipods and whatnot, maybe we should be using headphones a bit more in our mixing decisions.
Well, you're wrong. i saw a recent test and, whilst its all subjective of course, the audiophiles involved decided that a cheap pair of Au$15 normal headphones had better reproduction than the most expensive ear-buds. I've never heard a pair of ear-buds that I thought sounded even half-decent.flippya2000 wrote:Personally, I like in-ear headphones, small and unless your a nutta who likes to annoy people/damage ur ears, quiet to those around you. Also, the sound quality is good IMO
You won't be disappointed.foosnark wrote:I expect my MA-10A's to arrive via UPS sometime this week
If you are using near-field monitors you should be able to exclude all that extraneous stuff without turning them up too loud. i.e. They should be close enough to your head to overcome all the ambient sound.woolyloach wrote:I have little choice but to use phones for listening, mixing, etc. as my apartment is a very noisy environment (4 fish tanks, 2 air filters) and short of having speakers up to window-shattering volume, I'd not hear all the nuances of the music.
Nah, tehy got better and better until Discmans started to take over.androidlove wrote:is it my imagination, or did walkmans go downhill after the 1st 2 models?
No, the problem is people are using krappy ear-bud headphones. I too am surprised at the number of people I see walking around with those white cords running up to their ears. Its certainly way more prevalent than Walkmans ever were. I have never enjoyed listening to music on headphones, even my really good AKG's. I need the experience to be far more visceral.vtx wrote:are people getting good headphones and not bothering with, that new stereo..
will headphones ultimately change the music we make
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- KVRian
- 1238 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from Kentucky
I hate ear buds. A $15 pair of clip over the ear headphones work much better and sound much better. I use them when riding bike and can still hear the traffic.
I also tend to mix with headphones because I live in an apartment and have no choice. My speakers get turned on maybe once a month. If you mix with headphones, use good headphones.
As for when we turned into a headphone community, I'm not really sure. The walkman may have come out 25 years ago, but kids preferred boom boxes. Any school trip someone always had a boom box to rock the bus. Only in the last 3 years has every kid decided that they HAVE to have their own mp3 player.
Robert
I also tend to mix with headphones because I live in an apartment and have no choice. My speakers get turned on maybe once a month. If you mix with headphones, use good headphones.
As for when we turned into a headphone community, I'm not really sure. The walkman may have come out 25 years ago, but kids preferred boom boxes. Any school trip someone always had a boom box to rock the bus. Only in the last 3 years has every kid decided that they HAVE to have their own mp3 player.
Robert
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- KVRian
- 1178 posts since 24 Jan, 2003 from the hilly bit in Lincs, UK
[edited because it was a duplicate comment... stereophonic]
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- KVRAF
- 6519 posts since 13 Mar, 2002 from UK
No. That's quite typical. Have a look at a mk1 iPod. They're beautifully made and the wheel moves.androidlove wrote:is it my imagination, or did walkmans go downhill after the 1st 2 models?
Same thing with cd's. High end manufacturers where ordering original drives from Phillips OEM years after they were dropped from anything with a Phillips lable on it.
Sony are notorious for it. However they did make the mighty walkman pro for many years. As good a cassette deck as anything short of a Nakamichi.
- addled muppet weed
- 111343 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
there are even "discos" where you take your own tunes,that way everybody hears what they want to hear, it makes the socialising side of clubbing more than just the odd sign for "fancy a beer" and "im off to the bog"
i went to one a few years back,kinda wierd watchin people dancing to all different stuff in their own little world
i went to one a few years back,kinda wierd watchin people dancing to all different stuff in their own little world
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- KVRAF
- 6519 posts since 13 Mar, 2002 from UK
- addled muppet weed
- 111343 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
not on my phones it wasnt 
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- Banned
- 761 posts since 7 Dec, 2005
That would be a denial of the right against search & seizure... he musta suedHink wrote:do you remember quadraphonic headphones back in the 70's? You're right though, early 80's every jogger started wearing headphones, you could get headphone radios...you could get rockman's, chain them together and everyone could hear each other....when the technology broke through and they could make a player just a bit larger then a tape things changed quite a bit...I remember a guy got busted here in the mid 80's for a huge quantity of coke, the reason the cop stopped him was because he was wearing headphones...rockstar_not wrote:In response to the original question - we became a headphone society when Sony introduced the walkman 25 years ago. That was when the devices; headphones that is; became typical outside of the home and/or recording studio.
We've never looked back since. Usage did drop off, I believe, when CD's started to overcome cassettes here in the US, but now with portable digital players; iPods and wannabees, their use is endemic to society.
But I believe the change happened 25 years ago, not just with the iPod generation.
BTW, the military use of noise beams was implemented just recently on some pirates off the coast of Africa not too long ago. Here's an article:
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/techi ... last_x.htm
There are also some speaker manufacturers that use sound transmitted on ultrasonic carrier waves, to set up acoustic holograms. I believe that Monsoon audio marketed these a couple years back. Here's an article on that topic.
http://www.acoustics.org/press/133rd/2pea.html
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technol ... page=2&c=y
-Scott
- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
No, actually I remember the whole thing because he starting dumping bags out the window....he wasn't smart enough to know it was illegal to drive with headphones on....he thoughr he was getting stopped because they knew he had the coke....what are the odds that he might of sampled the product first?...G-Ro124 wrote:That would be a denial of the right against search & seizure... he musta suedHink wrote:do you remember quadraphonic headphones back in the 70's? You're right though, early 80's every jogger started wearing headphones, you could get headphone radios...you could get rockman's, chain them together and everyone could hear each other....when the technology broke through and they could make a player just a bit larger then a tape things changed quite a bit...I remember a guy got busted here in the mid 80's for a huge quantity of coke, the reason the cop stopped him was because he was wearing headphones...rockstar_not wrote:In response to the original question - we became a headphone society when Sony introduced the walkman 25 years ago. That was when the devices; headphones that is; became typical outside of the home and/or recording studio.
We've never looked back since. Usage did drop off, I believe, when CD's started to overcome cassettes here in the US, but now with portable digital players; iPods and wannabees, their use is endemic to society.
But I believe the change happened 25 years ago, not just with the iPod generation.
BTW, the military use of noise beams was implemented just recently on some pirates off the coast of Africa not too long ago. Here's an article:
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/techi ... last_x.htm
There are also some speaker manufacturers that use sound transmitted on ultrasonic carrier waves, to set up acoustic holograms. I believe that Monsoon audio marketed these a couple years back. Here's an article on that topic.
http://www.acoustics.org/press/133rd/2pea.html
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technol ... page=2&c=y
-Scott
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.



