So did you have you emu card in a lap top, or just really long mic leads? Im often stuff on how to capture sources like this, were there is no clear point of origin.
samples of vibrating dinner plates
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- KVRAF
- 2356 posts since 30 Sep, 2003 from Sunny Staffordshire
Indeed, that sounds great! Reason I ask is that Im looking to invest in a stereo mic for fx / field recording. Very quiet recording too (in terms of noise), excellent stuff. I shall have to be making my own van door sounds now I think, for my own stash
So did you have you emu card in a lap top, or just really long mic leads? Im often stuff on how to capture sources like this, were there is no clear point of origin.
So did you have you emu card in a lap top, or just really long mic leads? Im often stuff on how to capture sources like this, were there is no clear point of origin.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3161 posts since 22 Dec, 2004
The card is on my desktop pc, I don't own a laptop. I connect about 10 20' cables together for each mic. So far no loss is quality detected; the cables are the cheap ones from musiciansfriend.com. Every cable I have bought has worked fine for me. Actually I am looking to buy some more to see how many I can connect before I get a noticeable loss in quality.
I appreciate your compliments on the sound quality.
If you have any other queries on sampling, I'd be happy to answer.
I appreciate your compliments on the sound quality.
If you have any other queries on sampling, I'd be happy to answer.
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- KVRAF
- 2356 posts since 30 Sep, 2003 from Sunny Staffordshire
Thanks Genetic!
Im planning some field sessions this year, so I may well be taking you up on that offer
I think for starters I going to make my life easy and get a couple of suitable mics. I was thinking a Rode NT4 and a Sennheiser ME67. That has me pretty much covered for close stereo, ambient and long range fx recording.
Im planning some field sessions this year, so I may well be taking you up on that offer
I think for starters I going to make my life easy and get a couple of suitable mics. I was thinking a Rode NT4 and a Sennheiser ME67. That has me pretty much covered for close stereo, ambient and long range fx recording.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3161 posts since 22 Dec, 2004
I have never used a shotgun mic (Sennheiser ME67) before so I might be asking for your advice in the future.
Good luck with it.
Good luck with it.
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- KVRist
- 135 posts since 27 Dec, 2005 from United Kingdom
I use a rode NT 4 for Field recordings – but keep in mind you cannot hand hold it and it needs lots and lots of protection from even the slightest of breezes.
You might be better off with two Rode NT-3’s or AKG 1000’s due to the fact they have internal shock mounts right where the condenser sits – the NT-3 is way more sensitive, so the 1000 s might be a good one to start with.
You might be better off with two Rode NT-3’s or AKG 1000’s due to the fact they have internal shock mounts right where the condenser sits – the NT-3 is way more sensitive, so the 1000 s might be a good one to start with.
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- KVRAF
- 2356 posts since 30 Sep, 2003 from Sunny Staffordshire
I have a C1000 knocking around somewhere. Did some basic fx recording with it before. Worked fine actually, but the range was a bit limited (hence why Im now considering a long gun).
How do you think would be the best way to set up the mics? If Im on the road then it would be nice to have some way of operating them 'hand held'. I guess that is wishful thinking though!
How do you think would be the best way to set up the mics? If Im on the road then it would be nice to have some way of operating them 'hand held'. I guess that is wishful thinking though!
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- KVRist
- 135 posts since 27 Dec, 2005 from United Kingdom
Yep! The c1000s is pretty cool at capturing sounds for fx use. I think its best to use a stand at all times to minimise any unwanted noise – particularly if you are thinking of upping the gain a bit to capture fainter more distant sounds (though in reality its always best to get as close to the source as possible) however if you have the money you can purchase equipment that enables you to get closer without walking up to the source.
You could get a boom and a special enclosure that will reduce unwanted noise from the wind and from hand held use – guys like Beyerdynamic make such things and worth looking at – or you could try and make something to enclose your mics.
If you want big stereo, two mono mics are best as you can place them where you want rather than in the obligatory xy configuration. – you can get bars that enable you to mount the two mics on a single stand (or boom)
You could get a boom and a special enclosure that will reduce unwanted noise from the wind and from hand held use – guys like Beyerdynamic make such things and worth looking at – or you could try and make something to enclose your mics.
If you want big stereo, two mono mics are best as you can place them where you want rather than in the obligatory xy configuration. – you can get bars that enable you to mount the two mics on a single stand (or boom)
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- KVRAF
- 10597 posts since 13 Jun, 2004 from Alberto Balsam
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3161 posts since 22 Dec, 2004
Yeah two mono mics will obviously give you more control over the stereo image. If you can hold still you might be able to control the rode NT 4 by hand, but it would be a pain.
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- KVRAF
- 2356 posts since 30 Sep, 2003 from Sunny Staffordshire
Right boys, its coming together now!
I have my Apogee preamp (powered by a 12v battery) going into a Nomad 3, and powering two mic set ups:
- Rode NTG1 with Deadcat (should be great for fx)
- x2 C1000 (for capturing in stereo)
Not sure how I mount and windshield the C1000's though. Will have to experiment a little with that. Damn sure Im not coughing up for two Rycotes. The NTG1 will likely go on the end of a boom arm.
Thanks for the advice guys, I will let you get back to your thread now
I have my Apogee preamp (powered by a 12v battery) going into a Nomad 3, and powering two mic set ups:
- Rode NTG1 with Deadcat (should be great for fx)
- x2 C1000 (for capturing in stereo)
Not sure how I mount and windshield the C1000's though. Will have to experiment a little with that. Damn sure Im not coughing up for two Rycotes. The NTG1 will likely go on the end of a boom arm.
Thanks for the advice guys, I will let you get back to your thread now
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3161 posts since 22 Dec, 2004
Can you record wav into the Nomad 3? Is the apogee two channel?
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- KVRAF
- 2356 posts since 30 Sep, 2003 from Sunny Staffordshire
You can indeed, upto 48/16. And the convertors dont sound that bad, no worse than you'd find on the average pc soundcard. Plus its cheap, has a reasonible battery life, and a good few gig capacity. Its the perfect little recorder for those on a budget.
The Apogee is a Mini MP. I won it in a competition believe it or not. I has two channels of pre-amplification, 48v phantom power and LOADS of clean gain. Pity I couldnt have won the one with the DA convertors too, but beggers cant be choosers, right? On trouble I had with this was finding suitable power, but I went into Maplin's yesterday and go a 20 quid 12v that works perfectly (if a little heavy).
Anyway, I have one of those £399 laptops from PC World for editing and that while on the road. Will install the Nomad software, Wavelab and a few plugins. Should be cool to have this in the car so I can sort out recordings on the spot.
Now, if I can get these stereo mics sorted I should be ready for a world tour of England! I'll be visiting Zoo's, scrapyards, docks, airports... I cant wait!
The Apogee is a Mini MP. I won it in a competition believe it or not. I has two channels of pre-amplification, 48v phantom power and LOADS of clean gain. Pity I couldnt have won the one with the DA convertors too, but beggers cant be choosers, right? On trouble I had with this was finding suitable power, but I went into Maplin's yesterday and go a 20 quid 12v that works perfectly (if a little heavy).
Anyway, I have one of those £399 laptops from PC World for editing and that while on the road. Will install the Nomad software, Wavelab and a few plugins. Should be cool to have this in the car so I can sort out recordings on the spot.
Now, if I can get these stereo mics sorted I should be ready for a world tour of England! I'll be visiting Zoo's, scrapyards, docks, airports... I cant wait!
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3161 posts since 22 Dec, 2004
sounds cool. How long will the 12v last you before a charge?
I'm getting a little envious. I have an audiobuddy preamp but I couldn't find anything that would portably power it.
I'm getting a little envious. I have an audiobuddy preamp but I couldn't find anything that would portably power it.
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- KVRAF
- 2356 posts since 30 Sep, 2003 from Sunny Staffordshire
Actually, I forgot which capacity battery I ended up going with (doh!).
All I can tell you is that the higher ones were estimated at providing about 4 fours of power. The one I have does 1 - 2 I think. Enough, put it like that. Not sure who long it takes to charge either, will probably be able to give you more info when I get out and really test it.
"I'm getting a little envious. I have an audiobuddy preamp but I couldn't find anything that would portably power it."
Power had me stumped for quite a while. I kept looking at these Ecopower and Cascademedia models that cost $200 (plus the rest to get it imported and VAT'ed). But in the end, a simple 12v sealed lead battery is all that I needed.
Do you know what the Audiobuddy takes, electricity wise? Should say on the powersupply if you're in doubt.
All I can tell you is that the higher ones were estimated at providing about 4 fours of power. The one I have does 1 - 2 I think. Enough, put it like that. Not sure who long it takes to charge either, will probably be able to give you more info when I get out and really test it.
"I'm getting a little envious. I have an audiobuddy preamp but I couldn't find anything that would portably power it."
Power had me stumped for quite a while. I kept looking at these Ecopower and Cascademedia models that cost $200 (plus the rest to get it imported and VAT'ed). But in the end, a simple 12v sealed lead battery is all that I needed.
Do you know what the Audiobuddy takes, electricity wise? Should say on the powersupply if you're in doubt.
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- KVRist
- 135 posts since 27 Dec, 2005 from United Kingdom
I use an R4 for ambient and difficult to get to sound places – this takes eight AA size batteries and eats them like you would not believe possible – I ended up getting four sets of rechargeable metal hydride with a 12 volt fast charger – but – the pay off is worth it, four simultaneous channels of 24 bit 96 kHz – this means I can create sample sets with option points in sound to the end user of the sample set.
I will be uploading some freebies in due course of small sample examples like this.
Its fun stuff
I will be uploading some freebies in due course of small sample examples like this.
Its fun stuff