KVR Audio

jorgen · Post by **jorgen** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:17 pm

Not many years ago I had a room full of hardware devices, they are now all gone mostly but I sometimes regret selling the stuff, like my Emulator II just because of its awesome cool look (I think bought it just because Depeche Mode had it...I found my emacs to be more usefull though

) the Yamaha A3000 was my last purchase...

Noticing the extremely high traffic on KvR I cant stop wondering how many people doing it all in software with hosts/plugins theses days, as in world wide? billions?

cheers
jorgen

GaryG · Post by **GaryG** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:23 pm

I'm all software now, with the exception of my guitar and an input channel. Even use soft-effects on the guitar, can't remember the last time i plugged a pedal in...

Nearly all free software too, I could never have afforded the range of hardware synths that i get to use nowadays. And much more convenient imho. (no lost patches for instance)

.g

nuisance sonore · Post by **nuisance sonore** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:40 pm

jorgen wrote: Noticing the extremely high traffic on KvR I cant stop wondering how many people doing it all in software with hosts/plugins theses days, as in world wide? billions?

Billions? I seriously doubt it. There's still an incredible amount of musician who won't go near a computer, I'm surprised every time I go to my local music shop and listen to conversation there; a lot of musicians still use hardware only and don't even own a computer, let alone use one for music making, even keyboardist.

Last year I showed my setup to a friend of mine, she teaches music to children with special needs and compose music just for that, she seemed impressed enough that I went to her place and installed the demo of a few software that I thought would be of use to her; well, she never even opened those software title once, she still compose at the piano with pen and paper.

I could be wrong, but I think making music on computer is still very much a geek thing.

mao · Post by **mao** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:54 pm

I think the best things you can do is using both.

Speaking about keyboards I'm using real analog hardware for real analog sounds and few vst for all other kind of synthesis.

John Vulich · Post by **John Vulich** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:56 pm

nuisance sonore wrote:I could be wrong, but I think making music on computer is still very much a geek thing.

I think it depends on if you're talking about hobbyists or pros I suppose.

Paulie Phonick · Post by **Paulie Phonick** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:56 pm

The only hardware I would consider getting these days are acoustic instruments (double bass, drumkit, percussions) and maybe a better electric guitar + means of recording them properly. I'd surely not buy any hardware synths or samplers.

nuisance sonore · Post by **nuisance sonore** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:49 pm

John Vulich wrote:
nuisance sonore wrote:I could be wrong, but I think making music on computer is still very much a geek thing.
I think it depends on if you're talking about hobbyists or pros I suppose.

I was talking generally, pro, semi-pro and hobbyist included. I was watching "the making of" of a movie a few months ago, they went into great details about how the musical track was made and I was surprised to see how little they used sequencing software. Basically, the composer gave the arranger his score written by hand on regular score sheet, the arranger then transfered those to the computer to do his "arranging", then printed the score for the musicians to play in the recording studio.

What I wrote is just the impression I get, I could be totally outside of reality as I never done any research on it, but if I'm right it could be good for dev as it would mean it is still a growing market.

scum · Post by **scum** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:57 pm

i dont understand one thing:
people RESPECTS and admires the dude, that plays mp3s with his warezed dj soft on his pc in the local disco, and still are thinking, that to make music on the pc is not a serious thing...

mooter · Post by **mooter** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 3:32 pm

I was jamming at a party with a guy who had his electric guitar plugged into his laptop (a soundblaster pcmcia card that only did not crackle at 96k) with Guitar Rig running and out to a cabinet.
The delays, chorus and distortions sounded great!

Only hardware I would get these days are guitars
though I do miss pedals, but like Guitar Rigs and Waves GTR bundles they come with pedals and I might go that route. Or build my own midi control pedals for Reaktor and whatever.

deastman · Post by **deastman** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 3:59 pm

I'm about 50% hardware, 50% software. I still purchase hardware synths as well. In the past year, I've acquired a FutureRetro 777, Nord Modular G2, Alesis Ion, and a bunch of Doepfer modules. I've also picked up two djembes and a childs toy accordion.

Could I do it all in software? Of course. But I don't have to, because I have a room full of toys to play with!

sundaymorning · Post by **sundaymorning** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 4:03 pm

the only hardware i have are a laptop pentium 500 ghz 64 mb and a Desktop 1.8 ghz 256 mb, ..and a mic , ..so far i only have releases on netlabels , nothing real/physical yet

.. , i ask many times to myself why i keep doing it and if im not crazy or something.. but then i see people talking that have albuns , cd´s out , on sale ,and that ,using just software, that make me feel more good and i keep just trying to enjoy what i doing , .. cus most of the times i really enjoy it , oohh yess..its just software, ..and i wanna Thanks ( a LOT )people from buzz,madtracker, audiomulch, bidule... great software and they are , or they were for a long time free software... and Jorgen too,i don´t own eXt ..but its not hard to see this software is amazing.. thanks..

kara · Post by **kara** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 4:21 pm

I am basicly a hardware guy, which means that I mostly play with a couple of hardware synthesizers.
My MIDI sequencer of choice is allso hardware, a Yamaha QY700.
Multitrack recorder is an 8 track Roland digital recorder.
So what do I do here ?
I've build myself some kind of a receptor equivalent with a laptop and Ext. In that I can create the wicked sounds I need from time to time, and then sample those or simple play it as just another synth.
I don't use a lot software sequencers and if i use one it's mostly buzz, but that is because, again, I need some very special sound.

droolmaster0 · Post by **droolmaster0** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 5:00 pm

Having limited space, but liking hardware and software I am evolving into a setup in which the hardware synths are mainly instruments for which there really aren't software equivalents - mostly analog at this point, and I will be selling off some digital synths to continue that trend. I love my Waldorf Q, but (imo) Tera 3, Zebra 2, and some others go beyond it. But I plan on adding to the Doepfer Modular, dumping the Q and fizmo and trying to get a Polver Evolver Keyboard, etc....and I'm also a real sucker for hardware step sequencers...

SuitcaseOfLizards · Post by **SuitcaseOfLizards** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:10 pm

Right now, I'm 100% software. I have little room for racks of gear, and at this point most of my soft synths sound as good (or better) than all of the hardware I've owned in the past!

It's a wonderful time to be an electronic musician!

verstaerker · Post by **verstaerker** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:18 pm

mao wrote:I think the best things you can do is using both.

Speaking about keyboards I'm using real analog hardware for real analog sounds and few vst for all other kind of synthesis.

second that - that's what i'm doin. I dramatically reduced my amount of VSTi (mainly i'm using Sytrus2, Vaz2010, Protoplasm) and i'm using my 2 analogue Synths (Korg Mono/Poly and SCi ProOne)
i think can make all sounds i need.

how many are using sequencers and pluings today?