KVR Audio

birrbits · Post by **birrbits** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:04 am

like simon says without those damn lights?

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:07 am

no just like a serial number of dumb words set to match their serial number of dumb words...

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:08 am

Hink wrote:
BONES wrote:Is C/R where you need to put the installation CD in whenever it asks you?
with auto-tune it was a string of words and you had to reply with the right string of words in response...

When? At start-up?

birrbits · Post by **birrbits** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:08 am

i'm tired

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:08 am

1 time string each way if that's what you meant...I really do not understand it, I just did it and it was done and I saved the strings

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:10 am

BONES wrote:
Hink wrote:
BONES wrote:Is C/R where you need to put the installation CD in whenever it asks you?
with auto-tune it was a string of words and you had to reply with the right string of words in response...
When? At start-up?

no when I registered it...that's it, at least so far

baino · Post by **baino** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:00 am

I rather put installation CD in, but not interested in C/R games

Bradster · Post by **Bradster** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:19 am

@Hink: I see your point and agree fully that breaking one's own rules once in a while is a healthy thing -- a personal revolution of sorts. But the whole notion of software that has to phone home and ask permission to be used (whether via a "one time" C/R or every few miliseconds via dongle) just places too much onus on the user. It's not so much my Yankee stubborness as it is my dyed-in-the-wool NH libertarian roots that causes me to be this way.

All that much more sad because I came from Cool Edit 2000, well, back in 2000! Syntrillum was a stand up company. Wonder what they think?

@Bones: On the outside chance that you're not joking

....

C/R is where they give you a serial#, you type it in as part of the installation process, the installer or the app. startup will use the serial to generate a unique ID for your exact hardware configuration, send this ID back to the mothership, they in turn generate another ID string (are you still with me?) which is then sent back to you or directly to your (internet connectd) DAW that finally "authorizes" the software to work on that machine in that exact configuration. Trouble is that if make any harware changes or, for the more touchy systems, even do a restore from a ghosted image of your system, you have to re-activate.

Try doing that in front of a client. Or in your case, on stage. "Thank you for contacting Adobe support. We cannot find any record of your purchase. Goodbye."

Sorry to turn this into a rant guys. It just irks me all that much more when some company starts imposing these restrictions after you've already bought into their products and loyally upgraded for years. They seek our allegience -- or perhaps obedience -- but don't see fit to return any favors or respect.

blurk · Post by **blurk** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:40 am

Bradster wrote:...they in turn generate another ID string (are you still with me?) which is then sent back to you or directly to your (internet connectd) DAW that finally "authorizes" the software to work on that machine in that exact configuration. Trouble is that if make any harware changes or, for the more touchy systems, even do a restore from a ghosted image of your system, you have to re-activate.

I'm not trying to change your mind here, because I feel that way pretty much myself about dongles. I was also concerned about AA requiring activation, but checking out the Adobe activition FAQ it looks as if their version of activation isn't quite that finicky. They explicitly claim that restoring a ghosted system should work. FWIW.

rpc9943 · Post by **rpc9943** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:21 am

this upgrade price sucks

wtf

i still want it but still i mean i dont use AA enough to justify,.

RONC

Rabban · Post by **Rabban** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:35 am

With all this talk about Adobe/Audition copy protection and activation, I was wondering if anyone knows exactly what third-party c/r company is supplying the copy protection for Audition?

I know that a hot topic is Pace. For many, they have not had any problems with Pace, while others have been screwed in the past and refuse to purchase Pace "infected" software, for one reason or another.

I am not writing this to say that Audition uses Pace for its protection, but over at Pace's website, under the list of InterLok uses, it lists Adobe as a client.

Can anyone confirm if Audition is using Pace (or maybe Pace is used on Adobe's highest end software suites only)?

My own personal views on Pace are not favourable and I do not like to personally reward companies that use that particular company's anti-protection scheme.

I am just curious as to the exact type of protection for what has been a wonderful audio editor.

spaceman · Post by **spaceman** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:48 am

still no osx

fgimian · Post by **fgimian** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:56 am

as I could see on the Adobe forums, Audition uses the same authorization as Photoshop CS2 which is not PACE based

If anyone has any further info that contradicts me, please feel free to correct me

Cheers
Fots

christianmusicmaker · Post by **christianmusicmaker** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:34 pm

I use Photoshop CS2 and it does not appear to use any form of PACE. A simple activation online and *all* my CS2 packages were activated at the same time.

ccollinsmith · Post by **ccollinsmith** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:54 pm

If Audition 2 is using the same authorization as CS2, then it shouldn't be much trouble. I didn't have any trouble with activating Photoshop CS2, and I've changed computers since my first installation. No trouble at all. They didn't even ask questions when I changed computers. I had more trouble changing computers with Native Instruments, and even that wasn't all that much trouble.

So here's a question NOT about the C/R authorization:

For those of you who already HAVE upgraded to Audition 2... How do you like it as compared with 1.5? Hink? Do I understand correctly that you've already got AA2?

I love 1.5, but I want to hear from some Audition 2 users before I upgrade. I liked the Sonic Foundry products a lot better before Sony took over. So I'm a little concerned as Audition becomes more and more Adobe. (I love Photoshop, but that's native Adobe).

I guess what I really want to know is: Is the new version an improvement? Or is it just unnecessary bloat?

Audition 2.0