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jpmarques · Post by **jpmarques** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:51 pm

I have searched up and down the manual, this forum and googled it too, and I can't seem to find a way to record VST instruments in Tracktion! Could someone please help me or show some tutorial on how to do it! It's so frustrating because I can play them and hear them, but just cant record!

Thanks

mandolarian · Post by **mandolarian** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:18 pm

Do you mean render from a midi track? Or do you mean record a live performance?

For the former you can render the track. Select the track, Click the Render button in the option window.

For live performance, you could use your sound cards digital 'mixer' to create an I/O patch back to T. Or you could use a VST recorder like TapeIt Free Or TapeIt 2: http://www.kvraudio.com/get/945.html
Or Voxengo Recorder:
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1562.html

jpmarques · Post by **jpmarques** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:29 pm

I'm talking about the second, live performance! What I wanted to do was to record directly inside Tracktion is this possible!??

Thanks

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:06 pm

Er...

Well, the signal path of ANY host is generally that the plug-ins come AFTER either the dry signal (in the case of audio) or the MIDI messages (in the case of MIDI).

You can work around this by putting a VST recorder on a channel, I suppose.

Greg

jpmarques · Post by **jpmarques** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:09 pm

I would expect that recording a performance from a VSTi in Tracktion, would be far more simple! I'm kind of disappointed!

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:21 pm

Disappointed that Tracktion handles MIDI the way every other sequencer in the world handles MIDI? Strange thing to be disappointed about.

TapeIt is free, if you REALLY want the audio track to record in realtime.

Otherwise, you just record the performance as MIDI, live and in realtime no less, and then it's "recorded". What exactly do you want to gain by recording the audio rather than the MIDI?

Greg

Jafo · Post by **Jafo** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:48 pm

My spies inform me that Lunch Money wrote:Otherwise, you just record the performance as MIDI, live and in realtime no less, and then it's "recorded". What exactly do you want to gain by recording the audio rather than the MIDI?

Especially since you can just render said thusly recorded midi at any time.

Err, sorry for the verbosity. My English major is showing again.

C00kie · Post by **C00kie** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:55 pm

You either record the midi notes you play, or you record it as audio.

There is a difference... The first way is preferred btw, since it takes less space and you can correct errors in a simple way.

jpmarques · Post by **jpmarques** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:17 pm

Well, actually MiniHost does allow this kind of live performance recording, you just press record and play away!

I took your advice Lunch Money, and loaded up Voxengo Recorder in Tracktion and managed to record what I was playing. The only problem is that I wanted it to record into a track inside Tracktion! Is this possible!?

The reason I want to do this, is just for the sake of efficiency!

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:14 am

Which sort of efficiency, though?

I'm sure most of us believe that it's more efficient, in fact, to record the MIDI and then render.

There's only ONE reason to record the audio signal in realtime, and you haven't mentioned it yet so I assume that's not the issue.

Once you've recorded your track in Recorder, does it store it to a HDD location? If so, then you can simply "import" it back into Tracktion, though depending on how you've set everything up, you may not have it perfectly "lined up" that way. If it automatically starts recording at the beginning of the edit, you're set!

Greg

jpmarques · Post by **jpmarques** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 10:18 am

Since everyone seems to think MIDI is the way to go, maybe I'll give it a try! Could you please explain how, I've been reading the manual and it's just too damn complicated!

Thanks for your time

nuisance sonore · Post by **nuisance sonore** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:09 am

Record midi? Drag your midi input to the track your VSTI is set on so it connect (or right click on the input section if you're in "track view"), press "R" and play.

Tracktion is the simplest of them all to record stuff in: you have your input on the left, recording/arranging in the middle and output on the right. Audio or midi there's no difference.

jpmarques · Post by **jpmarques** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:30 am

I have no midi input, I have Mkey and I'm playing frommy keyboard!

nuisance sonore · Post by **nuisance sonore** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:41 am

You mean a computer keyboard? Well, that would explain why you think recording midi is complicated if you have no midi generator...Sorry, I can't help you there as it's not something I'd want to do so I never looked into, maybe somebody will chime in or try the 2 Tracktion forum:

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=22

http://forums.mackie.com/scripts/forum/ ... forum;f=17

jpmarques · Post by **jpmarques** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:43 am

Thanks for the tips!

Recording VSTi in Tracktion