Sony ACID 6 is coming!

[stag]

I disagree. Live is light years beyond ACID in many respects. ACID 6 seems like a step in the right direction but they are still way behind.

So what??? I think Live is lame as Acid regarding sequencing, but to mangle some loops it´s way better,that´s my opinion, but of course to do that i prefer Kontak or DevineMachine Pro.

If the Sony pdf is true, Acid with Multichanel recordind, i hope proper software monitoring and drum maps, as i said i´m gonna wait for SX4 but this time i know that to me there is an alternative.

BTW i never liked Live not even for free, a bad sounding semi clone of Acid??? no thanks.

[John Vulich]

BTW i never liked Live not even for free, a bad sounding semi clone of Acid??? no thanks.

Perhaps the problem may have more to do with the shit, that you obviously have for brains, getting so filled up in your head that it's oozing out and clogging up your ears.

[Cabinfever]

BTW i never liked Live not even for free, a bad sounding semi clone of Acid??? no thanks.

Perhaps the problem may have more to do with the shit, that you obviously have for brains, getting so filled up in your head that it's oozing out and clogging up your ears.

No need for that. This isn't a debate about the render quality between Acid & Live. And a preference for Acid doesn't imply a lack of intelligence.

If straight specs and feature lists was the only determining factor in what people use then it would be a different world.

One of the greatest strengths of Acid is that it is *simple*. I have Sonar 5 and it can do everything Acid can, but for certain tasks it's nowhere near as fast. And sometimes to capture the inspiration you don't need a thousand features, you need something simple.

[John Vulich]

No need for that. This isn't a debate about the render quality between Acid & Live. And a preference for Acid doesn't imply a lack of intelligence.

I don't care what people prefer to use but refering to Live it as a "bad sounding semi clone of Acid" is just plain ignorant.

If the douchbag wants to act like a Troll he's gonna get treated like one.

[stag]

Well Vulich i don´t like you either... no offence, it´s what it is.
Why don´t you and your half assed Live trolls mates iniciate an anti ACID thread somewhere else and let us have some fun discussing ACID 6.

[munchkin]

BTW i never liked Live not even for free, a bad sounding semi clone of Acid??? no thanks.

Perhaps the problem may have more to do with the shit, that you obviously have for brains, getting so filled up in your head that it's oozing out and clogging up your ears.

No need for that. This isn't a debate about the render quality between Acid & Live. And a preference for Acid doesn't imply a lack of intelligence.

If straight specs and feature lists was the only determining factor in what people use then it would be a different world.

One of the greatest strengths of Acid is that it is *simple*. I have Sonar 5 and it can do everything Acid can, but for certain tasks it's nowhere near as fast. And sometimes to capture the inspiration you don't need a thousand features, you need something simple.

I think this sums up why I like ACID. The ease that it gets me up and running creating music. I own Live and Sonar. They are both fantasticly versatile hosts but I can't get into their workflow. For me it's purely workflow rather than features. ACID 6 may be a catch up with other hosts but it does have certain looping features that the other haven't.

[arke]

Well Vulich i don´t like you either... no offence, it´s what it is.
Why don´t you and your half assed Live trolls mates iniciate an anti ACID thread somewhere else and let us have some fun discussing ACID 6.

you are too funnay

I don't think our dear Mr. Vulich, of Buffy fame, was bashing ACID at all. And he wasn't praising Live either. I think its just that you have happened to receive a lobotomy (not quite unlike G-Ro124), and you happened to get offended when somebody doubts your "i can hear an audio quality difference! zomg!" view which is completely unjustified because its the same f**king ones and zeros (kinda like Gol's been trying to tell the world but nobody believes him because we just want him to never leave his cubicle ever, just keep making new versions of FL).

[stag]

Okay then it´s all the same, thanks for the info,all sequencers have the same pan law, all sequencers deal the same way with cliping, init??? pathetic twat.
Now someone could tell how´s gonna be monitoring on ACID6???
Also do they have a crossgrade policy from other apps???

[waiting man]

can't resist...just bought a used Tracktion2 for 60$. gnargnarkill.

[arke]

Okay then it´s all the same, thanks for the info,all sequencers have the same pan law, all sequencers deal the same way with cliping, init??? pathetic twat.
Now someone could tell how´s gonna be monitoring on ACID6???
Also do they have a crossgrade policy from other apps???

you are too funnay

Load any f**king sample in any f**king app and have it play at the same f**king volume and it'll sound the same f**king way. Every single one. Sure, panning laws are different but thats such a minor issue that its simply a matter of adjusting the knob, its not like it'll actively make stuff sound bad because it pans at 2/3 of a knob the same as another host at 3/4 of the knob.

This isn't restricted to samples either, load a VST with the same preset and it'll be the same thing (with the exception being certain buggy VSTi, and thats a plugin bug and has nothing to do with the host).

Oh yeah, and a little hint: Three question marks in a row do not make you look cool. Maybe amongst your AOL friends sure but not here.

[shtunot]

"One of the greatest strengths of Acid is that it is *simple*. I have Sonar 5 and it can do everything Acid can, but for certain tasks it's nowhere near as fast. And sometimes to capture the inspiration you don't need a thousand features, you need something simple."---

Your on point with that cabinfever. Sure acid doesn't have all the "bullet items" like the rest...Thats why we demanded rewire host/slave functionality. If you love live so much use both. My money is on the fact that you'll be spending most of your time in acid...but I'm biased.

Ed.

[imekon]

I gave up on Acid - I found I preferred to work in MIDI than with loops. Acid's MIDI editing was never that great - always writing out to a MIDI file, not part of the actual project file seemed a quick way to lose everything.

That and the 'media manager', aka SQL Server with a big fat footprint. Earlier versions of Vegas and Acid insisted on its installation - errors otherwise. Later versions fixed that.

I use FL Studio instead - it's MIDI editing is almost there. It's a quirky package to use, but it works for me.

[G-Ro124]

I use FL Studio instead - it's MIDI editing is almost there. It's a quirky package to use, but it works for me.

I find FL Studio very similar to ACID... Because ACID is made for loops rather than MIDI and FL is made for MIDI rather than loops, I am tending to use FL.

you are too funnay

When you say "funnay", that sounds like how a gay will say "funny". I suggest you say "funny" instead of "funnay", as "funnay" makes you sound gay.

If you aren't already that is

[stag]

I read the KVR announcemment, that´s funnay, i´m looking forward to try it.
don´t care what´s been said by the "cool" audio emminences around here.
it seems not to support MFX... well, i can get it all like Live users should know, however the inclusion of drum maps, which are Steinberg trade mark made think of some kind of cohoperation, that only could be good if true, cause on SX i miss two ACID features: file browsing and batch project rendering.

arke, son, i´m wondering what this mute me button is for i think i´m going to try it on you too, you´re so brilliant i gotta wear shades.

[No name]

A very valid point no name. Though it all comes down to a individuals workflow.

You want to spend 3 months reading the sonar manual to get up and running? Or upgrade to AP6 and be at home ready to create from the word go!

It's up to each to see which features aren't in AP6 and give a "nice to have" VS. "need to have" rating. Too many need to haves mean your hard earned cash goes elsewhere.

Though if the upgrade price was only $149[which it usuaLLY IS right?] I don't see that being a deal breaker. Remember AP is a rewire host/slave.

Ed.

Shit, are you serious? I'm switching hosts and looking for a new one as you might have seen (The thread over in hosts "How is tracktion working out for you?" explains it all), but i've tried 3 diff hosts so far. Sonar SE, Live Lite, and Tracktion, and I must tell you right now that by far Sonar has been the easiest to understand for me. I" suppose this is partly because Sonar has Acid everything does, and more, and more than they just added on. Oh yea, and the SE version is only $300, AND comes bundles with those lovely sonitus FX and so much more. I'm starting to fall in looove . I never once touched the manual for Sonar, and yet i'm getting along just fine. I'm not dissing ANYBODY, but serious guys, 200 MORE dollars for something that should have been done, something that is expected of them now a days with all the other hosts being so far ahead? I've been down with Acid since Sonic foundry, literally. Back in 00 I was using my FL, Acid combo. A big diff now, FL kicks ass and keeps on kickin more ass, as Acid....Well, you see where I stand. I'm just too frustrated at all of their bullshit now.



by the way, please don't take this as an attack. This is merely venting my frustration at sony. You have your points, but Sonar just seems more attractive at this point.