Smashing Sounds with Sonalksis Compressor

[bmanic]

hey Aleksey, when I say everything, I meant it in a general context lol my apologies. Often on a drumkit I don't apply compression on the overheads and room mics.

Currently I use the Marquis for non-drum related tasks, and thus, if the phasing limitation could somehow be addressed, then I would be able to use it for drum mixes too, which would be ideal !

Thus, the less phasy mode would be very much appreciated. With the less phasy mode, does this mean that we should be able to apply compression to say, the snare drum and it will still phase align with the drum mix ?

Thanks a lot
Fots

There really is no problem using it on drums unless you go trough several busses and then also add marquis on the final master (you could then end up with 3 or even 4 marquis plugins in series). I use marquis all the time on individual drums (by far the best for this task, of all the compressors I have!) without any real problems but it does usually force me to take marquis away from the master.

Cheers!
bManic

[Aleksey Vaneev]

soundpalace, unfortunately, phasing won't fully go away, so it won't be possible to mix Marquis-processed and clean tracks still. The problem here is the same as with analog mixing. E.g. if you are using two different mixing decks with their output summed, you'll likely get some phasing as well (due to varying phase response). And only if you are mixing with a single deck these problems go away. Similarly, if you put Marquis on every channel that belongs to some group this will eliminate phasing problems as well. Anyway, let's see how 'less phasy' mode works after all - maybe that will eliminate all known phase problems with Marquis.

[fgimian]

soundpalace, unfortunately, phasing won't fully go away, so it won't be possible to mix Marquis-processed and clean tracks still. The problem here is the same as with analog mixing. E.g. if you are using two different mixing decks with their output summed, you'll likely get some phasing as well (due to varying phase response). And only if you are mixing with a single deck these problems go away. Similarly, if you put Marquis on every channel that belongs to some group this will eliminate phasing problems as well. Anyway, let's see how 'less phasy' mode works after all - maybe that will eliminate all known phase problems with Marquis.

Thank you for your explanation Aleksey, sure, let's give it a shot. It may help the issue that bManic is mentioning even though I don't notice it

Thanks a lot Aleksey
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[fgimian]

hey Aleksey, when I say everything, I meant it in a general context lol my apologies. Often on a drumkit I don't apply compression on the overheads and room mics.

Currently I use the Marquis for non-drum related tasks, and thus, if the phasing limitation could somehow be addressed, then I would be able to use it for drum mixes too, which would be ideal !

Thus, the less phasy mode would be very much appreciated. With the less phasy mode, does this mean that we should be able to apply compression to say, the snare drum and it will still phase align with the drum mix ?

Thanks a lot
Fots

There really is no problem using it on drums unless you go trough several busses and then also add marquis on the final master (you could then end up with 3 or even 4 marquis plugins in series). I use marquis all the time on individual drums (by far the best for this task, of all the compressors I have!) without any real problems but it does usually force me to take marquis away from the master.

Cheers!
bManic

Here bManic, I'm mainly referring to using it on real drums, i'll set up a scenario for you. We have the following tracks...

- Bass Drum
- Snare Drum
- Hihat
- Tom Mics
- Overheads
- Room Mics

Now suppose I want to do the following...

- Compress the bass drum
- Compress the snare drum
- Send the bass and snare drum to a group and smash those (parallel compression)
- Maybe also compress the Toms

In this case I would have to group the remaining mics (hihats, overheads and room mics) and run a Marquis over them so that the phase will be coherent between those and the other compresssed sounds.

Not that much of a big deal really, it just means a bit more CPU power and a compressor that only provides the phase alignment.

I will try it on a drum mix today properly and see if it all goes well. If it sounds better, then I can definitely live with higher CPU usage.

Cheers
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[bmanic]

I was also talking about real recorded drums.

Cheers!
bManic

[fgimian]

Cool Well regardless of the slight inconvenience, I'm going to try the Marquis on my drum mixes and see what happens

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