Back to Rhino roots
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- R.I.P.
- 3833 posts since 8 Sep, 2003 from Santa Clara, CA, USA
well...my celeron finally bit the dust ( Thank God!!) and now I have a new System: 2.9 Ghz, 1G RAM, P4. Its so much better. Got Rhino re-installed and started going thru my banks ( including Daniels excellent stuff)but for some reason, I loaded my first Rhino bank and my first Rhino Patch . It was called Rohan ( and the LOTR movies wern't even out yet...thats how long ago it was!!) I was pleasently surprized at that sound, and the rest of the sounds in that first bank. When it first came out, the PC's of that time staggered..it used way too much CPU..but today, it gives 10% at most. It was a joy going thru that first bank again and reviving my Rhino Roots. Just thought I would share that for some reason.
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- KVRAF
- 2217 posts since 15 Jul, 2003
it is a great bank,
and i remember your great enthusiasm when you discovered rhino. it's pretty well captured in that bank.
but there are some presets in there that drive my 2.4 gHz notebook well past 10% cpu
after that 1st bank, I believe Tick shared some of the tricks of limiting cpu usage and your other banks are a lot more cpu friendly. For that reason I tend to use the other banks more, but the 1st one has a sort of wild and untamed flavor
and i remember your great enthusiasm when you discovered rhino. it's pretty well captured in that bank.
but there are some presets in there that drive my 2.4 gHz notebook well past 10% cpu
after that 1st bank, I believe Tick shared some of the tricks of limiting cpu usage and your other banks are a lot more cpu friendly. For that reason I tend to use the other banks more, but the 1st one has a sort of wild and untamed flavor
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- KVRAF
- 6895 posts since 9 Mar, 2003 from the bridge of sighs
the 'algorithmic' patches were ( and are ) eye-openers ...
ear openers ?...
ear openers ?...
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- KVRAF
- 37409 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Still some of the best patches I've ever heard - please make some more 
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- KVRist
- 275 posts since 20 Aug, 2003
Tim,
It is interesting to hear your reaction, and I certainly agree with the others about the qualities of those opening patches. Something started happening with hardware synths and has increasingly accelerated with soft instruments: maybe it is just the influence of popular music and fashion, but when did good sounds go out of style? It seems these days we can get a wonderful instrument, full of great patches and possibilities, and then people are quite ready to drop them when the Next Big Thing comes along, as if all their potential for making great music has suddenly stopped. As if a violin has stopped working, or the piano, which has been around well past version 10.0, can no longer be counted on to craft a great song or piece.
Rediscovering those "old" bits of programming you did for Rhino reminds us that the musical quality is still there, we just happened to walk down the road a bit, busy with all our new toys. I think I'll go fire up my Prophet V...
Cheers,
Envoy
It is interesting to hear your reaction, and I certainly agree with the others about the qualities of those opening patches. Something started happening with hardware synths and has increasingly accelerated with soft instruments: maybe it is just the influence of popular music and fashion, but when did good sounds go out of style? It seems these days we can get a wonderful instrument, full of great patches and possibilities, and then people are quite ready to drop them when the Next Big Thing comes along, as if all their potential for making great music has suddenly stopped. As if a violin has stopped working, or the piano, which has been around well past version 10.0, can no longer be counted on to craft a great song or piece.
Rediscovering those "old" bits of programming you did for Rhino reminds us that the musical quality is still there, we just happened to walk down the road a bit, busy with all our new toys. I think I'll go fire up my Prophet V...
Cheers,
Envoy
the dreamer that remains . . .
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- I'm American, I have rights!
- 414 posts since 13 Mar, 2002 from x_World
That answer's pretty easy.
1. there are hundreds of good synths out of 10s of thousands
2. they are relatively cheap and available immediately in many cases
3. the web is the biggest store in the world
4. like many muscians we look for the next great thing
all that said, I still use:
Pentagon 1
FM7
PPG Wave
Pro-53 and (52)
Max/MSP
etc.
Tim has all these cool Atari to PC clones,
My favorite guitar is 11 years old
My favorite keyboard is a Korg KARMA, only six years old but still only a handfull of synths that do anything similar to it's algorithic KARMA system.
one of my latest favorites,
Korg Digital Legacy
M1, T series, WaveStation - all with the complete samples and patches made by the company.
and if pressed, I prefer new synths like Rhino, Tera 3, etc.
Change the Korg price from a street price of $150 USD on up to $500 and I'm not as interested. It's a buyers market currently and what is truly sad are the number of synths that might not keep companies afloat as developers thought sub-200.00 synths would be considered reasonable.
If anyone cared, I'd suggest they find a distributor and accept they aren't going to make tons of money on the first synth they put out - even if its great.
1. there are hundreds of good synths out of 10s of thousands
2. they are relatively cheap and available immediately in many cases
3. the web is the biggest store in the world
4. like many muscians we look for the next great thing
all that said, I still use:
Pentagon 1
FM7
PPG Wave
Pro-53 and (52)
Max/MSP
etc.
Tim has all these cool Atari to PC clones,
My favorite guitar is 11 years old
My favorite keyboard is a Korg KARMA, only six years old but still only a handfull of synths that do anything similar to it's algorithic KARMA system.
one of my latest favorites,
Korg Digital Legacy
M1, T series, WaveStation - all with the complete samples and patches made by the company.
and if pressed, I prefer new synths like Rhino, Tera 3, etc.
Change the Korg price from a street price of $150 USD on up to $500 and I'm not as interested. It's a buyers market currently and what is truly sad are the number of synths that might not keep companies afloat as developers thought sub-200.00 synths would be considered reasonable.
If anyone cared, I'd suggest they find a distributor and accept they aren't going to make tons of money on the first synth they put out - even if its great.
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- KVRAF
- 1927 posts since 30 Oct, 2003 from Frolicking in Dirac's Ocean
Yep...the algorythmic patches were revelatory and inspiring. Thanks. Incandescently creative. ONe of my favorite pieces was sparked by that bank.
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- R.I.P.
- Topic Starter
- 3833 posts since 8 Sep, 2003 from Santa Clara, CA, USA
wrench45us wrote:it is a great bank,
and i remember your great enthusiasm when you discovered rhino. it's pretty well captured in that bank.
but there are some presets in there that drive my 2.4 gHz notebook well past 10% cpu
after that 1st bank, I believe Tick shared some of the tricks of limiting cpu usage and your other banks are a lot more cpu friendly. For that reason I tend to use the other banks more, but the 1st one has a sort of wild and untamed flavor
Yeah...my 4rth bank is the best CPU usage of them as I purposly made it that way..and quite usable sounds..BUT not the FULL POWER of the rhino.