A bass amp/cab sim project..have a listen

[championrabbit]

Any chance of mp3 192kbs ?
Wav is heavy for dial up.


Thanks

Wait until you've sold a few hundred copies of your AmpSim! You'll be able to afford serious broadband then!

[Midiworks]

I am happy to have a land line here.

stfu CR !
You are the only one who finds your neverending brainless comments funny.

[championrabbit]

I am happy to have a land line here.

stfu CR !
You are the only one who finds your neverending brainless comments funny.

There's no accounting for taste...

[lunik]

Bass is supposed to have a big bottom

Castrated bass is endemic. Yeah I know its hard to mix, but few recordings seem to capture the excitiment of having your les catching a breeze next to a bass rig that is flat down to 40hz.

One mixing approach I've thougt of trying is to cut the bass grt around 60-120hz, leaving space for the kick drum, but boosting at 30-50z to get the deep fundamentals there.

The voicing on the simulation really sounded good - along sansamp bass driver lines in a way.

Sounds good, but there's too much energy at the bottom. I'd love to hear it EQed in a mix with a drum kit (or a kick drum at least).

Since there seems to be plenty of character in the mid range, I don't imagine that losing some bottom would be a complete tragedy?

[Amberience]

Really like the riffs you're playing, and the sim sounds promising. The last riffs are very Seinfeldy

[championrabbit]

Bass is supposed to have a big bottom

Castrated bass is endemic. Yeah I know its hard to mix, but few recordings seem to capture the excitement of having your les catching a breeze next to a bass rig that is flat down to 40hz.

One mixing approach I've thougt of trying is to cut the bass grt around 60-120hz, leaving space for the kick drum, but boosting at 30-50z to get the deep fundamentals there.

The voicing on the simulation really sounded good - along sansamp bass driver lines in a way.

Sounds good, but there's too much energy at the bottom. I'd love to hear it EQed in a mix with a drum kit (or a kick drum at least).

Since there seems to be plenty of character in the mid range, I don't imagine that losing some bottom would be a complete tragedy?

Since nobody is going to be able to hear your 30-50hz bass, what's the point?

Better to plant the bass somewhere in the middle of the kick drum, presuming that you want people to be able to hear the notes the bass is playing, non?

In terms of ampsims, there's absolutely no point filling frequencies that are immediately going to be removed since all it does is rob you of overhead.

More noise, less signal.

Pointless.

The overall sound of the ampsim (assuming it isn't another midiworks-type joke) is impressive though.

I like.

[bduffy]

Bass is supposed to have a big bottom

Castrated bass is endemic. Yeah I know its hard to mix, but few recordings seem to capture the excitement of having your les catching a breeze next to a bass rig that is flat down to 40hz.

One mixing approach I've thougt of trying is to cut the bass grt around 60-120hz, leaving space for the kick drum, but boosting at 30-50z to get the deep fundamentals there.

The voicing on the simulation really sounded good - along sansamp bass driver lines in a way.

Sounds good, but there's too much energy at the bottom. I'd love to hear it EQed in a mix with a drum kit (or a kick drum at least).

Since there seems to be plenty of character in the mid range, I don't imagine that losing some bottom would be a complete tragedy?

Since nobody is going to be able to hear your 30-50hz bass, what's the point?

Better to plant the bass somewhere in the middle of the kick drum, presuming that you want people to be able to hear the notes the bass is playing, non?

In terms of ampsims, there's absolutely no point filling frequencies that are immediately going to be removed since all it does is rob you of overhead.

More noise, less signal.

Pointless.

The overall sound of the ampsim (assuming it isn't another midiworks-type joke) is impressive though.

I like.

I like to start with a big bottom and high-pass the subs; you still get the harmonic content of the subs without the wasted gain of them fully being there - so I like having plenty of low information. I'd rather have it there than try to add it later. If you don't like it, cut it.

[Stupid American Pig]

There is no law stating the kickdrum needs to be big and fat. I am perfectly happy cutting the bass frequencies out of the kick if the bassline is worthy of the attention.

[t-willy]

sounds good kilroy

lates

t-willy

[Amberience]

Most commercial tracks the kick drum is not a beefy as you would think.

[Kingston]

hot damn!

sounds great. What a joy it would be to try to fit these in a mix.. you know, just plain easy.

But you can't just come bursting in the room with an amp emulation like that and not talk about a release of some sorts!

The word that came to mind is 'solid'. (having used pretty much all the amp/cab simulations ever available)

[Kingston]

Since nobody is going to be able to hear your 30-50hz bass, what's the point?

Better to plant the bass somewhere in the middle of the kick drum, presuming that you want people to be able to hear the notes the bass is playing, non?

In terms of ampsims, there's absolutely no point filling frequencies that are immediately going to be removed since all it does is rob you of overhead.

Well thought out, but wrong I'm afraid.

You see, even though *you* might not hear them, or most of the world in fact, it's just these sub bass frequencies that make a lot of the difference between a great hi-end mixdown and a homebrewn demo sound. What made the bass demo so great, was the fact that these frequencies had been made count. Any normal amp sim will just generate mud around that area.

it's a common misconception there's no intelligent information around 40hz or so, and people just tend to cut it away. While this is a great practise on home systems, it's a cardinal error on world class mixdowns.

There also an unfortunate trend that while mastering, people cut all information below about 50hz. Again, it's an unfortunate side-effect of the home studio explosion.

[RChler]

nice...

what kind of bass has been used for the sample ? can you give a unprocessed/processed example

[Gregjazz]

Like I said, everything sounds great, but that low rumble does NOT belong in slap bass tone... it makes it sound muddy. Sorry, you can see how emotional I get about this.

Slap bass is one of the joys in my life...

[Hink]

I just downloaded the wave kilroy, I'll report back later