you need space and something for the sound to reflect off of to create reverb in the physical world...without reflections there is no reverb...so "any space imaginable" imo just isn't gonna happen...jackrabbit wrote:Hey another rabbit.![]()
The one thing that puts me of trying quick quack reverb is that is seems too focused on rooms, rooms of any shape. Surely a good reverb allows you to create not just a space, but any space imaginable not just rooms?
Best reverbs !?
- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
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- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
though when I think about it a "prairie" preset that shut off the reverb would be funny...
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- KVRAF
- 2135 posts since 12 Jul, 2004 from Brave New World
I get the feeling that this guy is one of those misinformed souls who thinks that the Orb is ambient.
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- KVRist
- 407 posts since 24 Aug, 2004 from under the big oak tree
Last autumn I did a one off project, a special effects thing for a halloween do. The event was outside and I was playing around with stuff like horses galloping being panned around everywhere. But I was having a prob with reverb, I could change the floors reflective surface to concerete, wood ets+ walles plaster, panneled or whatever indoors. I found this concept extremly limiting as I wanted to potray an outdoor scean in woods.Hink wrote:you need space and something for the sound to reflect off of to create reverb in the physical world...without reflections there is no reverb...so "any space imaginable" imo just isn't gonna happen...
Rooms are not the only relective environments around. What about more organic sceans like woods, caves cliffs and the like
- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
huh...cliffs=delay caves=complex rooms...water=amplify (at least at night) woods=reverb? I would love to have the ears that could hear that (maybe I wouldn't). I grew up in the woods...you would think that besides allowing more noise through there would be a difference between summer and winter...not the case though...leaves do reflect the sound some...but they also absorb it quite a bit...as does the ground...but I really have never heard echo in the woods 
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- KVRian
- 559 posts since 30 Dec, 2004
Dude.John Vulich wrote:The Rev500 invented ambient? Once again you show your ignorance by talking out of your ass.
Norman from D&D club knows all about 'ambient' music and he told me that you can't even make ambient music without a Rev500.
Him and Dave from the Warhammer shop are total experts at 'ambient' music and they said that two of the most important ambient records ever ('Tiny floating shiny stuff' by Glow 44 and 'In a sea of tranquil medicine oil' by DJ Afternoon Cricket Match) were made almost exclusively with a Rev500.
You should check your facts, buddy.
- KVRAF
- 2784 posts since 18 Apr, 2001
I don't know anything specific about 'ambient music', but it's always funny to see such a designation being used as some sort of statistical measure (and this goes for every term for any given musical style).championrabbit wrote:You should check your facts, buddy.
What I do know is that there is a big difference between fact and opinion:
1. Opinion: something very subjective and therefor unmeasureable that we seem to have a lot here at KVR.
2. Fact: something statistically or scientifically measureable and therefor completely inpossible to use when talking about something completely subjective as the perceptance of music.
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- KVRian
- 559 posts since 30 Dec, 2004
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A mischievous trick; a prank.
An amusing or ludicrous incident or situation.
Informal.
Something not to be taken seriously; a triviality: The accident was no joke.
An object of amusement or laughter; a laughingstock: His loud tie was the joke of the office.
n.
Something said or done to evoke laughter or amusement, especially an amusing story with a punch line.
A mischievous trick; a prank.
An amusing or ludicrous incident or situation.
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Something not to be taken seriously; a triviality: The accident was no joke.
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- KVRAF
- 2784 posts since 18 Apr, 2001
I was not joking, but let's put it another way:
If I was to be a musician that wanted to make ambient music and I did or did not have access to a certain specific reverb unit, do you really think that would prohibit me from making the music that I wanted to make ?
Before all this software-mania we (and that includes myself) where choosing our equipment, learned to work with it and made due with it. I had (and as I said still have) a RV4 because that was the best and most flexible for the money I had at that time. And although I new that someone like Alan Parsons (for example) would never use a RV4, and I would loved to have access to what he actually did use, it never stopped me from making my music. And I never had the feeling that my music wasn't 'real' or 'good' just because I didn't have Alan's studio setup.
If I was to be a musician that wanted to make ambient music and I did or did not have access to a certain specific reverb unit, do you really think that would prohibit me from making the music that I wanted to make ?
Before all this software-mania we (and that includes myself) where choosing our equipment, learned to work with it and made due with it. I had (and as I said still have) a RV4 because that was the best and most flexible for the money I had at that time. And although I new that someone like Alan Parsons (for example) would never use a RV4, and I would loved to have access to what he actually did use, it never stopped me from making my music. And I never had the feeling that my music wasn't 'real' or 'good' just because I didn't have Alan's studio setup.
CrimsonWarlock aka TechnoGremlin, Moved to Reason and Rack Extensions exclusively (from Reaper and VSTs) several years ago.
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- KVRian
- 559 posts since 30 Dec, 2004
Dude.
I was joking. 'Norman from the D&D club'?!
I mean, come-on!
I don't have the vaguest idea about ambient music, less why anybody would listen to it or make it!

I was joking. 'Norman from the D&D club'?!
I mean, come-on!
I don't have the vaguest idea about ambient music, less why anybody would listen to it or make it!
- KVRAF
- 2784 posts since 18 Apr, 2001
Well, me also knowing nothing about ambient suckered me in. Fair enough 
CrimsonWarlock aka TechnoGremlin, Moved to Reason and Rack Extensions exclusively (from Reaper and VSTs) several years ago.
- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
is that what the AMB is for on dfhs? Making ambient music....
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- KVRian
- 559 posts since 30 Dec, 2004
Exactly right!Hink wrote:is that what the AMB is for on dfhs? Making ambient music....
'Ambient miking techniques' are strictly for acts with tracks called things like 'Frozen Arcs of Frozen Frost', 'Dreaming in a roomful of hardly-used cotton-balls' and 'Floating in a sea of charm (like a poo in a toilet bowl)'.
I really should charge you guys for these title ideas!
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- KVRian
- 1119 posts since 29 Jun, 2004 from within you without you
Championrabbit, this is some Classic trolling here. I have to say...this is the first time I've witnessed outright trolling and enjoyed it.championrabbit wrote:Exactly right!Hink wrote:is that what the AMB is for on dfhs? Making ambient music....
'Ambient miking techniques' are strictly for acts with tracks called things like 'Frozen Arcs of Frozen Frost', 'Dreaming in a roomful of hardly-used cotton-balls' and 'Floating in a sea of charm (like a poo in a toilet bowl)'.
I really should charge you guys for these title ideas!
I love lots of ambient stuff (mostly when it's in a movie), but those song titles are a freaking riot. So true.
I love cathedral verbs, btw. On maybe 5%, they rule on vocals.
