Voice remover plugin

[Fiz]

Hi all,

I have to remove voice from a track but can't find a VST plugin. I'm sure that there are some (freeware?) available.

Many thanks

Fiz

[Space Boy]

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/2107.html

[dogod]

Did you see the news page? ...

Not freeware, but some good competition for elevayta there hehe (from some real Gurus)

http://www.iua.upf.edu/mtg/audioscanner/

daGuru (R.I.P)

[Space Boy]

Did you see the news page? ...

Not freeware, but some good competition for elevayta there hehe (from some real Gurus)

daGuru (R.I.P)

Thanks for pointing this out.

On initial hearing it sounds like an attempt to rip-off 'Extra Boy' - except it's not free.

If you want to step a level higher in quality and functionality then 'Extra Boy Pro' is the real deal.

P.S. Just tried to test the "Gurus'" plugin and it crashed my host (Cubase).

Guru's you said...Hmmmmm!

[mvinyes]

P.S. Just tried to test the "Gurus'" plugin and it crashed my host (Cubase).

Guru's you said...Hmmmmm!

Please notice that it is still beta software and take a look at the "host compatibilty notes" of the download section:
"This VST plugin has only been tested with Cubase SX 3, Fruity Loops Studio 5.0, Sonar 5.0 Producer Edition and Windows XP SP2. Please post at the forum if there are problems with other hosts or other versions of Microsoft Windows."

[vista]

hi,

he's asking for freeware:

-> St3pan0va Knockout !!!
-> Elevayta ExtraBoy 1.14
-> DevineMachine Noobz 1.0

[TrevorMag]

Hi all,

I have to remove voice from a track but can't find a VST plugin. I'm sure that there are some (freeware?) available.

Many thanks

Fiz

At www.cloneensemble.com, you will find VoiceTrap, which will do this the "modern" way (with FFT, giving a stereo result), but it's not free.
You will also find SteroidBouncer, which can do it the "old-fashioned" way (left-right) if you know the trick
- invert one channel
- boost the bass slightly on one channel
- pan both channels dead center
... and it's FREE!

[Space Boy]

VoiceTrap, which will do this the "modern" way (with FFT, giving a stereo result), but it's not free.

The definition of what is "modern" has changed. First with Extra Boy and yet again with Extra Boy Pro. See this thread.

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=118473

and you get "Elevayta VST Rak" FREE to use with it.

[TrevorMag]

The definition of what is "modern" has changed. First with Extra Boy and yet again with Extra Boy Pro. See this thread.

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=118473

and you get "Elevayta VST Rak" FREE to use with it.

For "old fashioned", see Ethan Winer's article "The truth about vocal eliminators":
http://www.ethanwiner.com/novocals.html

For "modern", see "More truth about vocal eliminators" from the folk at csp-audio:
http://csp-music.snaphost.com/downloads ... s_rev1.swf

That second article was the inspiration for VoiceTrap, and, quite possibly, the original Extra Boy (the algorithm appears identical, as does the demo mp3 - that's me singing "The Wraggle Taggle Gypsies" you cheeky bugger). We must conclude that Extra Boy conforms to what is modern rather than redfining it.

Extra Boy Pro has a great innovative interface, and the ability to isolate/remove tracks panned other than dead centre.

But it doesn't offer control over the phase window (seems harwired at 2*pi or 100%). My research (and the csp article) determined that finer settings can be useful for more problematic tracks (those with annoying burbling FFT artifacts).

Sometime in the future, someone will find a way to generate the perfect matched filter (I think that is the terminology) and then the definition of what is "modern" will truly be changed.

[Space Boy]

For "modern", see "More truth about vocal eliminators" from the folk at csp-audio:
http://csp-music.snaphost.com/downloads ... s_rev1.swf

That second article was the inspiration for VoiceTrap, and, quite possibly, the original Extra Boy (the algorithm appears identical, as does the demo mp3 - that's me singing "The Wraggle Taggle Gypsies" you cheeky bugger). We must conclude that Extra Boy conforms to what is modern rather than redfining it.

I had not seen either of these documents. I also cannot easily find the CSP article on their site.

Without disclosing too much about the proprietary technology I developed for Extra Boy, I would just like to point out that the date of the CSP article says 'revised in June 2005'. This is a good 3+ months after the first public release of Extra Boy (March 17 2005) and my first prototype goes back to September 2004.

CSP don't make products, they provide a service. Quite possibly CSP are even using Extra Boy to provide their service (I've certainly had enough downloads from the Netherlands).

I suggest to you that the release of Extra Boy was more the inspiration for the update of the CSP document than vice versa. And, in fact, Extra Boy has defined what you refer to as "modern" and CSP refer to as "Nowadays".

Extra Boy Pro has a great innovative interface, and the ability to isolate/remove tracks panned other than dead centre.

But....

Your 'But...' is again based on speculation. I'd say that being able to manipulate audio, in the way that Extra Boy Pro allows, is already close to the Holy Grail. To be clear - Extra Boy Pro achieves more and better quality than products costing 100 times the price (and that is what some of my customers have stated). And, if you would have used Extra Boy Pro on its 'highest' quality setting (not immediately available in the demo BTW). You will hear that the 'annoying burbling' is dramatically reduced and the future is already here - at least for Elevayta customers.

The cost vs performance value of Extra Boy Pro is phenominal (so I am told... often).

P.S. I can remove the "Wraggle Taggle" demo if you like (nice singing however) - just say and it's gone. There is no better way to compare audio products than by using the same input material. I used Extra Boy throughout (so no cheating - that's certainly not my style).

[TrevorMag]

I had not seen either of these documents. I also cannot easily find the CSP article on their site.

Yeah, they've got a pretty convoluted website:
home
faq (top right)
"more information here" - first link in first point
"how does... work?" - first link in sidebar
"read the fuill article" - first link in page

I would just like to point out that the date of the CSP article says 'revised in June 2005'. This is a good 3+ months after the first public release of Extra Boy (March 17 2005) and my first prototype goes back to September 2004.

I can't remember when I first read it, it would have been around that time, I first saw the link in a drumming newsgroup!

Quite possibly CSP are even using Extra Boy to provide their service

More likely they've just bought a Thompson VE-4:
http://www.vocaleliminator.com/theory.htm
Especially if you notice that both CSP and Thompson claim they can process mono data (which I freely admit is a difficulty, and suspect the same of you )

... at the 'highest' quality setting... the 'annoying burbling' is dramatically reduced

Now you've got the DSP demon in my head racing... oversampling...? better windowing...?

P.S. I can remove the "Wraggle Taggle" demo if you like (nice singing however) - just say and it's gone.

Nah, that's OK, but it'd be cool if you asked next time though. I'm hardly your nemesis, in fact I've had a link to your site on my links page for years, and you've got twice as much Google juice as me anyway (according to http://douweosinga.com/projects/googlebattle )

[Space Boy]

Quite possibly CSP are even using Extra Boy to provide their service

More likely they've just bought a Thompson VE-4:
http://www.vocaleliminator.com/theory.htm
Especially if you notice that both CSP and Thompson claim they can process mono data (which I freely admit is a difficulty, and suspect the same of you )

You may be right. However, these days, I think that such hardware could be considered 'old fashioned'.

Processing mono material is more difficult given the fewer degrees of freedom available. I find the claim of processing mono material unsupported by evidence on either site.

Having said that, a combination of Wider Boy Pro followed by Extra Boy Pro (I have just tested) is able to do quite a reasonable job with mono material. This works well inside the Elevayta VST Rak.

I am aware that you have a link to Elevayta on your site. I would be willing to reciprocate if you removed the "seem awfully familiar...." and the "he even borrowed my voice" text (a more recent addition). It should not be implied that Clone Ensemble is an alternative to either Clone Boy or Choir Boy. Yes, all use FFT processing, and one uses the word "Clone" - but that is where the similarities to Clone Ensemble stop.

[TrevorMag]

I am aware that you have a link to Elevayta on your site. I would be willing to reciprocate if you removed the "seem awfully familiar...." and the "he even borrowed my voice" text (a more recent addition). It should not be implied that Clone Ensemble is an alternative to either Clone Boy or Choir Boy. Yes, all use FFT processing, and one uses the word "Clone" - but that is where the similarities to Clone Ensemble stop.

That bit about my voice was a reflex action when I first heard it earlier today! I've toned down the 'tude a bit, you may decide upon its acceptability and act accordingly.