Audiomulch v1

[sdv]

That's good for the AM community but now... would you buy AM or Bidule considering their prices?

If it helps, Bidule VST and AudioMulch work beautifully together.

Yep - especially with Energy XT added as well - I have all 3 Nice combo.

Yep... have eXT... will probably look into Bidule for it's crazy spectral morphing and mixers. Might still get Mulch at some point... just 'cuz.

But saying that I ask this... how are you Mulcher's using AM?
How are you integrating it with Bidule and/or eXT?

[fac]

If only we had some kind of warning that it was going up... I wouldn't have sat on the pot so long.

There was an announcement a few months ago where Ross said the first release version was coming soon and that the price would rise after v1.0 was released.

[shamann]

If only we had some kind of warning that it was going up... I wouldn't have sat on the pot so long.

There was an announcement a few months ago where Ross said the first release version was coming soon and that the price would rise after v1.0 was released.

I think it was even in a news release posted here at KVR.

[shamann]

But saying that I ask this... how are you Mulcher's using AM?
How are you integrating it with Bidule and/or eXT?

I do pretty much all of my composition in Audiomulch these days. Have for at least the last three years.

I tend to use energyXT as a MIDI sequencer inside Mulch. Which actually isn't often any more, since I haven't been sequencing a lot of MIDI lately. I prefer recording live playing and then working with the audio clips.

But the setup would be eXT as a VST in Mulch, with a MIDI part for notes and the VSTi inside eXT. I also use it occasionally for its envelopes in the event I want a looped modulator but don't want to run Mulch in loop mode.

I tend to use Bidule as an effect in Mulch now that it runs as a VST. So I'll set up some process inside Bidule, and just run audio through Bidule back into Mulch for routing, mixing, etc. Since Bidule went VST, I probably use eXT less, as I've been running MIDI plugins like that most excellent bouncing ball sequencer more often in Bidule.

[sdv]

If only we had some kind of warning that it was going up... I wouldn't have sat on the pot so long.

There was an announcement a few months ago where Ross said the first release version was coming soon and that the price would rise after v1.0 was released.

I think it was even in a news release posted here at KVR.

Oh sure... Ross has been giving us warning for years now... that's why I put a 'wink' in there... we've had "ultra" warning! It's just that I had planned on buying it Tuesday morning and when I awoke... boing.. it was it's full price!!
But I can't complain... it's all good.

[Muff Wiggler]

what 'most excellent bouncing ball sequencer'? seriously?

[shamann]

what 'most excellent bouncing ball sequencer'? seriously?

home of the most excellent bouncing ball sequencer

thread about the most excellent bouncing ball sequencer

[pHz]

what 'most excellent bouncing ball sequencer'? seriously?

home of the most excellent bouncing ball sequencer
thread about the most excellent bouncing ball sequencer

beat me to it but i did the screenshots so ...

... i orginally thought it was this one ...



... but then it dawned on me it was ...



(available at the links in steves above)

slainte rob

[sdv]

But saying that I ask this... how are you Mulcher's using AM?
How are you integrating it with Bidule and/or eXT?

I do pretty much all of my composition in Audiomulch these days. Have for at least the last three years.

Hmmm... interesting indeed. Didn't think of Mulch as being much for composing, always thought (and played around with the demos) as a 'mangler'. Perhaps time to rethink?

But I wonder what makes it so good for composing. I could see audio as you could loop, granualize and mix. It has some cool automation but what really sets it apart. But I wonder how Mulch and Bidule differ as it seems that Bidule has most everything Mulch has. Of course I've only used them just briefly so there are probably some deep differences if ppl say so... just wondering what those are (ex: Mulch being great for audio, triggering and warping it live?.

[Beardedone]

Audio Mulch looks very appealing. Must give it a try.

[Muff Wiggler]

thank you Steve and Rob!! Going to do some bouncy ball sequencing tonight...


(how the hell do i keep missing all this cool stuff??)

heheh cheers

[aMUSEd]

what 'most excellent bouncing ball sequencer'? seriously?

home of the most excellent bouncing ball sequencer
thread about the most excellent bouncing ball sequencer

beat me to it but i did the screenshots so ...

... i orginally thought it was this one ...



... but then it dawned on me it was ...



(available at the links in steves above)

slainte rob

None as good as this one:



but you need a virtual midi cable (or Creamware Scope's routing capabilities)

[pHz]

yeah ... played around with sounder in the past ... but the virtual MIDI patching is a PITA for a lazy git so the less powerful VST plugs win here ...

slainte rob

[Borogove]

Location: Auto-Wah, Canada

Muff, how long have you had that in there? I have to kill you now.

[shamann]

But I wonder what makes it so good for composing. I could see audio as you could loop, granualize and mix. It has some cool automation but what really sets it apart. But I wonder how Mulch and Bidule differ as it seems that Bidule has most everything Mulch has. Of course I've only used them just briefly so there are probably some deep differences if ppl say so... just wondering what those are (ex: Mulch being great for audio, triggering and warping it live?.

I've done at least one overview on the major differences in an old thread, but I haven't the mental power to list them all now.

The main difference is that Bidule is inefficient for sequencing events. You can do it of course, with stuff like MIDI plugins or build your own out of the MIDI functions, but nothing similar to linear/timeline sequencing. That's why it went VST, so they didn't have to expand on the sequencing and could focus on the other good stuff.

Audiomulch has its automation lanes, which can be set for most any parameter. I work almost exclusively with audio, either streams like oscillators or internally sequenced VSTs, or triggered/looped samples. So sequencing becomes just a series of fades, crossfades, mutes, triggers, and modulations. I use massive amounts of automation like it was notation, you could even use it to write fairly conventional song structures even, since it does what any sequencer does, only presented a different way and without MIDI. Then there's the Metasurface, which is sort of like the Melohman function as a live sequencer, morphing between host states.

There are of course other differences, but linear sequencing is the most central.

EnergyXT has linear sequencing functions of course, but then it doesn't have the sound generation capabilities that Mulch or Bidule have. Both Mulch and Bidule are modular synthesizers in their own right, where eXT is not. Even its sampler (and future synths etc) are self contained like VSTi and don't really take advantage of/rely on the modular environment extensively.

Mulch is great just as a synth/sampler/audio mangler, but so is Bidule equally. Some of Mulch's stuff is better (like its granular stuff, its loopers, the 10harmonics oscillator, its phaser, its delay/comb filters), but then some of Bidule's stuff is better (its spectral stuff, some of its sampling facilities, the possibilities of its building blocks, its buffers), so I think on that front, go with what you like best. But the other stuff I mentioned is what sets the two apart in mutually beneficial ways.