sonar5pe or cubase sx3 which and why?

[SampleStream]

It would just eliminate stuff if you pull them – but should not have to.

In the last tab – click on the blue highlighted ones – so they go out – so nothing is highlighted – you should then be able to click one of the other settings in that last tab.

Then click ok – sonar will ask you to re-start sonar – when you next open sonar your choice will also show in the first tab

[grymmjack]

It would just eliminate stuff if you pull them – but should not have to.

In the last tab – click on the blue highlighted ones – so they go out – so nothing is highlighted – you should then be able to click one of the other settings in that last tab.

Then click ok – sonar will ask you to re-start sonar – when you next open sonar your choice will also show in the first tab

That was it You da man

[grymmjack]

No demo of v5? The v4 demo is nice, but to really evaluate it I would like to try v5... No demo for this yet?

[xylyx]

http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/kb/kb2005298.asp

[kp]

Because ASIO only supports one device at a time, unselect the Guitar Port, then the other devices will become available (again, you can only select one interface at a time).

[grymmjack]

http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/kb/kb2005298.asp

Thank you.

[fhinspectit]

thanks for all the input. I think I'll buy both and play with each till I figure which one I like. seems sonar users prefer sonar and the same with cubase. I guess whichever one you feel comfy using is the one for you.

[grymmjack]

Another funky situation. I have setup the instrument definitions in sonar to match my keyboard. These instrument definitions work fine. The XP60 is in performance mode (multitimbral -- where each patch can be chosen -- channel 1-16 accordingly), and I have setup my tracks #1-16 to point to the xp60 for midi output and proper channel in track #1, channel is #1 and using Roland XP-60 Patch definition for sending NRPNs. This works as it should WHEN sonar is stopped. However, as soon as I arm the track and record something, it is sending some kind of message to the XP60 to reset it back to it's default state and default patch for the performance NOT the one I have chosen in the bank/program list from my instrument definition that I have built.

So my question is; how do I stop this from happening. In sonar XL I set it up just as I said up there, the difference is it works as it should in sonar XL. When I arm and begin recording, no message is sent to the XP-60 that resets the current performance back to the original state.

Even more confusing ... If I don't record, and just use the pianoroll to insert notes, the patches stay the way they were supposed to stay the entire time.

So something is happening in the transport that is sending a reset or something to my XP60 and I cannot find out where it is.

Please

Thanks

[JerGoertz]

Under Options->Project Options->MIDI Out, make sure "Zero Controllers When Play Stops" is unchecked.

[grymmjack]

Under Options->Project Options->MIDI Out, make sure "Zero Controllers When Play Stops" is unchecked.

I did. It made no difference. Same problem.

[whyterabbyt]

so you're sorted on the asio front? glad to hear it. yes it was about elimination...

[grymmjack]

so you're sorted on the asio front? glad to hear it. yes it was about elimination...

Yeah thanks. Odd behavior. I would never have thought to deselect because the way the WDM drivers let you select several of them. I know this is an ASIO problem, but it would be nice in the future if they added some simple text under or to the right that said something like "ASIO mode is exclusive to a single interface. If you have more than one, and cannot select the one you wish, first deselect the currently selected interface and then select the interface you need."

Now I am having MIDI issues. Joy to the world.

[kp]

Select the XP60 track
Press I to show track inspector
Expand the options until the MIDI slider controllers are visible
Right click and disable them

[grymmjack]

Select the XP60 track
Press I to show track inspector
Expand the options until the MIDI slider controllers are visible
Right click and disable them

Ok I did that, didn't help the situation. Would it be helpful if I made a screen recording with audio monitored from the XP60? I really want to get this solved as it's a huge issue for me and I am at my wits end trying to figure out how to make it behave itself

If there were some way I could monitor what was happening like: sonar -> monitor -> xp60, I could look to see exactly what is happening but I cannot get MIDIOx to sit there. I've opened sonar, opened MIDIOx, and chosen input and output to monitor and enabled it yet when I hit record nothing is happening in the activity in fact I cannot even get anything to show up when Sonar is open, besides System REaltime messages (which is showing Active Sensing endlessly). So I filter that out in both input and output monitors, and nothing is happening in MIDIOx when I for instance add a note in piano roll in sonar and then look at MIDIOx after (expecting to see note on/note off and so on -- just like when I press keys on the XP60 and have MIDIOx in the foreground).

I could record the entire process and host the video on my webserver, if anyone is interested in helping me and thinks this would be necessary? Anyway thanks for trying so far everyone.

[whyterabbyt]

Try installing MIDI-OX, and using it to monitor the traffic on your MIDI port to the XP60. That way you'll at least get an idea what specific MIDI messages are being sent. If need be, you could prehaps MIDI-OX itself to filter them out.