is there a model that takes in 9v batteries?Genetic_Junk wrote:If you are on tight budget and don't need super fidelity MXL condensors are the way to go. You can get two for eighty bucks.
Custom Marantz Recorder/\Now with frog samples!!!
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- Tunesmith
- 2889 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from Toronto
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- Tunesmith
- 2889 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from Toronto
The problem i was hearing about was that the battery supply can become absolutely disfuntional, like 3 minutes and your fostex says bye-bye.SampleStream wrote:Phantom power, headphone pre-amp (this can be tuned off entirely to help save power) and lcd backlight can also all influence the power consumption. If possible its best to use mics with their own power.
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- KVRist
- 135 posts since 27 Dec, 2005 from United Kingdom
That sounds nasty indeed – thankfully I have not experienced that (yet!) Gulp!Mr. Tunes wrote:The problem i was hearing about was that the battery supply can become absolutely disfuntional, like 3 minutes and your fostex says bye-bye.SampleStream wrote:Phantom power, headphone pre-amp (this can be tuned off entirely to help save power) and lcd backlight can also all influence the power consumption. If possible its best to use mics with their own power.
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- Tunesmith
- 2889 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from Toronto
Yes let's hope not. I think it had something to do with battery conditioning though. I'll have to get the facts straight.SampleStream wrote:That sounds nasty indeed – thankfully I have not experienced that (yet!) Gulp!
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- KVRAF
- 2356 posts since 30 Sep, 2003 from Sunny Staffordshire
Peter,
Did you try the Sound Devices 722? I hear this thing is superb in every aspect. FR2 is meant to be a sweet bit of kit too, although I hear is pilledges batteries.
I really need to update my field recorder to be honest. Just not sure which direction to go it. I have a MiniMP, so pre's arent so important. Then again, I do want 24/96.
The Nomad is great as a recorder - plenty of space, light, long battery life. But its limited to 16/48.
Im beginning to think that an all in one unit like the new Tascam, FR2 or 722 might be a better option.
TB
Btw, Im using a matched pair of NT1's right now for some ambient recordings, and they are really good! Infact, Iv heard some nature recordists compare them favorably to the TLM103.
Did you try the Sound Devices 722? I hear this thing is superb in every aspect. FR2 is meant to be a sweet bit of kit too, although I hear is pilledges batteries.
I really need to update my field recorder to be honest. Just not sure which direction to go it. I have a MiniMP, so pre's arent so important. Then again, I do want 24/96.
The Nomad is great as a recorder - plenty of space, light, long battery life. But its limited to 16/48.
Im beginning to think that an all in one unit like the new Tascam, FR2 or 722 might be a better option.
TB
Btw, Im using a matched pair of NT1's right now for some ambient recordings, and they are really good! Infact, Iv heard some nature recordists compare them favorably to the TLM103.
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- Tunesmith
- 2889 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from Toronto
man i heard the sound devices line is the holy grail of field recorders
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- KVRAF
- 2356 posts since 30 Sep, 2003 from Sunny Staffordshire
I hear the 744 is a dream machine.
http://www.sounddevices.com/products/744t.htm
How about the Deva though? This thing can do some amazing stuff - it gives you a 10 sec recording buffer, so you can press record and it will tape from -10sec!
http://www.zaxcom.com/audio/deva.shtml
http://www.sounddevices.com/products/744t.htm
How about the Deva though? This thing can do some amazing stuff - it gives you a 10 sec recording buffer, so you can press record and it will tape from -10sec!
http://www.zaxcom.com/audio/deva.shtml
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3161 posts since 22 Dec, 2004
hey Mr. Tunes I am not sure if they make any that take 9v. http://www.mxlmics.com/ is their website.
My 2 new nt1a are really nice. So sensitive, and pick up low frequency much better than my mxls. Though the mxls are still very good for the money.
My 2 new nt1a are really nice. So sensitive, and pick up low frequency much better than my mxls. Though the mxls are still very good for the money.
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- KVRist
- 135 posts since 27 Dec, 2005 from United Kingdom
No I dont have one of those 722 or 744, not on my wants list either - not because they are a bad product though.tee boy wrote: Peter,
Did you try the Sound Devices 722? I hear this thing is superb in every aspect. FR2 is meant to be a sweet bit of kit too, although I hear is pilledges batteries.
The R-4 is the most batt hungry of the bunch.
Rode are a good make - the NT-1's are classic stufftee boy wrote: Btw, Im using a matched pair of NT1's right now for some ambient recordings, and they are really good! Infact, Iv heard some nature recordists compare them favorably to the TLM103.
Most field recorders offer pre-record.tee boy wrote:I hear the 744 is a dream machine.
http://www.sounddevices.com/products/744t.htm
How about the Deva though? This thing can do some amazing stuff - it gives you a 10 sec recording buffer, so you can press record and it will tape from -10sec!
http://www.zaxcom.com/audio/deva.shtml
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deaf dunderkwac deaf dunderkwac https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=78199
- KVRAF
- 5247 posts since 15 Aug, 2005 from RainLand featuring RAinRAinRAin
I wish I had more experience with the mics you all are using, but one thing I can say is that all phantom powered microphones are not equal. For instance the Neuman TLM170 easily draws (measured) twice the current as the U-87. With alot of battery-powered mixers the TLM170 won't even 'turn on'.
I like the Shoeps and Sennheiser mics mainly because of their low-current requirements for powering (besides the fact they are exceptional microphones) I used a Shoeps body with a hypercardiod head plugged into a Lectrosonics transmitter at the end of a fishpole because I could get rid of the wiring mess that happens during location recording. The exchangable heads are icing. (but.... not affordable to the average recordist... I don't own them... 'work' owns them)
Low self-noise is really dependant on what you're recording, of course. Capturing the sounds of earthworms requires the lowest-noise mics where just about anything that can stand up to the pressure could capture that turbo-jet take-off. (or my 1990 Geo Prism take-off (more like momentum adjustment))
I like the Shoeps and Sennheiser mics mainly because of their low-current requirements for powering (besides the fact they are exceptional microphones) I used a Shoeps body with a hypercardiod head plugged into a Lectrosonics transmitter at the end of a fishpole because I could get rid of the wiring mess that happens during location recording. The exchangable heads are icing. (but.... not affordable to the average recordist... I don't own them... 'work' owns them)
Low self-noise is really dependant on what you're recording, of course. Capturing the sounds of earthworms requires the lowest-noise mics where just about anything that can stand up to the pressure could capture that turbo-jet take-off. (or my 1990 Geo Prism take-off (more like momentum adjustment))
for entertaining porpoises only
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- KVRist
- 135 posts since 27 Dec, 2005 from United Kingdom
@tee boy
I like it, it’s a good 2-channel field recorder imo
@ dunder
Recording Jet Fighters, they are friggin loud, they are so so loud its unreal, they almost burn themselves onto disk without a mic I love the way they carve the air up too, bit like a helicopter on steroids
Shoeps I will need to check out (I am in the UK), quite a few of the rode don’t take much in the way of power at all – don’t need much in the way of gain either, which is good.
I would like to get a wireless pack for that very reason re-cables, I can also see it being useful for capturing timid creatures – I wonder about the possible noise a wireless system would introduce though, not having tried it yet. I have a mild aversion to cables, after taking a rack apart and dumping all the cables on the floor, mistake that was.
I like it, it’s a good 2-channel field recorder imo
@ dunder
Recording Jet Fighters, they are friggin loud, they are so so loud its unreal, they almost burn themselves onto disk without a mic
I love the way they carve the air up too, bit like a helicopter on steroidsShoeps I will need to check out (I am in the UK), quite a few of the rode don’t take much in the way of power at all – don’t need much in the way of gain either, which is good.
I would like to get a wireless pack for that very reason re-cables, I can also see it being useful for capturing timid creatures – I wonder about the possible noise a wireless system would introduce though, not having tried it yet. I have a mild aversion to cables, after taking a rack apart and dumping all the cables on the floor, mistake that was.
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- KVRAF
- 2356 posts since 30 Sep, 2003 from Sunny Staffordshire
Peter,
You may find it difficult locating Schoeps in this country. They do have distribution here, but getting them to test might be a bitch. They do some cool stereo mics though, so definately worth checking into.
Dunder,
Did you see that think on BBC recently about the insects? They showed you how the sound recordist got these tiny ants, it was amazing. He wanted to record the sounds that the lava made when signally to the drones. Fascinating stuff!
TB
You may find it difficult locating Schoeps in this country. They do have distribution here, but getting them to test might be a bitch. They do some cool stereo mics though, so definately worth checking into.
Dunder,
Did you see that think on BBC recently about the insects? They showed you how the sound recordist got these tiny ants, it was amazing. He wanted to record the sounds that the lava made when signally to the drones. Fascinating stuff!
TB
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deaf dunderkwac deaf dunderkwac https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=78199
- KVRAF
- 5247 posts since 15 Aug, 2005 from RainLand featuring RAinRAinRAin
tee boy,
Unfortunately, I live in the us... But I did record a series of insects (not ants).
There's nothing quite as loud as a bumblebee attacking the end of an 816 shotgun mic!
For about 17 tears I was a (everything is 'part-time', really) location recordist for a PBS network. Many challenges mainly overcome by using the noggin. Many stories best left unsaid.
But I tended o specialize in the 'earthworm' catagory
Unfortunately, the majority of my work has not lasted the test of time (tape stock damage) although alot of it was transferred to dat, the dats were never transferred to anything else. And
almost all of it was mono. (Hey, I had a nagra 4 mono machine)
I actually can imagine several ways of doing a setup of something like recording the sounds of the larva, but all of them would be 'in the lab' and not 'in situ'.
slight change of topic
I'm not exactly saying that the Shoeps line of microphones are the end-all be-all... they are just one of the microphone types I'm very familiar with.
Personally, I'd love to have a collection of the 'under 100$' type condensers. I understand some rival the more expensive lines to the point where it becomes academic.
One thing I can always recommend is to never (say never).
And that condensers deliver the best performance for 'general purpose' location sound recording.
And also that all condenser microphones are hardly equals.
@ Samplestream... Yes, and I did... those of you who are uninitiated to the fact that capacitors, coils and sometimes transisters and wires (and always tubes) are microphonic in nature. They just need a bit more gain to be 'heard' (+70dB or more) I did record a jet engine with the mic unplugged (frequancy respounce was a bit degraded tho :lol)
I only discovered that the mic was unplugged while marveling on how much gain I needed to get a recording up to level (about a gain of 50, if I remember right)
sorry, carrying on to much...
Unfortunately, I live in the us... But I did record a series of insects (not ants).
There's nothing quite as loud as a bumblebee attacking the end of an 816 shotgun mic!
For about 17 tears I was a (everything is 'part-time', really) location recordist for a PBS network. Many challenges mainly overcome by using the noggin. Many stories best left unsaid.
But I tended o specialize in the 'earthworm' catagory
Unfortunately, the majority of my work has not lasted the test of time (tape stock damage) although alot of it was transferred to dat, the dats were never transferred to anything else. And
almost all of it was mono. (Hey, I had a nagra 4 mono machine)I actually can imagine several ways of doing a setup of something like recording the sounds of the larva, but all of them would be 'in the lab' and not 'in situ'.
slight change of topic
I'm not exactly saying that the Shoeps line of microphones are the end-all be-all... they are just one of the microphone types I'm very familiar with.
Personally, I'd love to have a collection of the 'under 100$' type condensers. I understand some rival the more expensive lines to the point where it becomes academic.
One thing I can always recommend is to never (say never).
And that condensers deliver the best performance for 'general purpose' location sound recording.
And also that all condenser microphones are hardly equals.
@ Samplestream... Yes, and I did... those of you who are uninitiated to the fact that capacitors, coils and sometimes transisters and wires (and always tubes) are microphonic in nature. They just need a bit more gain to be 'heard' (+70dB or more) I did record a jet engine with the mic unplugged (frequancy respounce was a bit degraded tho :lol)
I only discovered that the mic was unplugged while marveling on how much gain I needed to get a recording up to level (about a gain of 50, if I remember right)
sorry, carrying on to much...
for entertaining porpoises only
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- KVRAF
- 2356 posts since 30 Sep, 2003 from Sunny Staffordshire
Mate, the Rode NTG1 has to get a mention for being by far the best cheap shotgun on the market. Eats the ME66 alive imo and costs a fraction. Might not put the Neumanns or Schoeps to shame, but its certainly a contendor.
"For about 17 tears I was a (everything is 'part-time', really) location recordist for a PBS network."
No shit, thats cool. I bet you learnt a boat load of tricks during that time.
I find myself lately suffering the age old problems of wind, moving sounds sources etc. Im gonna make some DIY zepplins soon though, so Im hoping that will help.
"For about 17 tears I was a (everything is 'part-time', really) location recordist for a PBS network."
No shit, thats cool. I bet you learnt a boat load of tricks during that time.
I find myself lately suffering the age old problems of wind, moving sounds sources etc. Im gonna make some DIY zepplins soon though, so Im hoping that will help.