KVR Audio

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:00 pm

xoxos wrote: ever used a genre-based forum? half the bloody threads end up being people chasing each other off to the 'proper' BOX, just like western culture..

...and are the other half supercilious comments from you about how f**king enlightened you are cos you like to play your second-hand Carlos Castenada "me so smart cos Im one with the natives" act all the time?

Amberience · Post by **Amberience** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:01 pm

Rurik, I already said earlier that "Experimental" is not a genre. Its an approach, a mindset.

The forum is a place to converse about this. Someone can be experimental with jazz chords just as much as they can with a soldering iron. That's the aim of the forum - to bring all that kind of tinkery together.

pHz · Post by **pHz** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:02 pm

whyterabbyt wrote:
pHz wrote:sean ... didnt say he shouldnt ... just making the point that if thats the direction ANY community goes then you have a potential problem
Well, yeah its an 'if'. There are a few possible 'ifs'. Is it a likely one?

no idea ... what do you reckon ???

whyterabbyt wrote:
(especially if the aim of the community in the first place is innovation and experimentation) ...
Why 'especially' ??

because (to me) the danger (however slight) of insularity and incest seems to run counter to the idea of experimentation and innovation ... i know the concept of the new forum is MAYBE less about the music and more about its inception / process / philosophy but IMHO even such 'background' discussions as these only make sense if taking place in a diverse context of more 'conventional' forms and artists (which COULD be the rest of the auditorium anyway) ...

whyterabbyt wrote:
... i think one of the reasons KVR itself keeps going IS the very diversity of opinion and ideology ...
I could do with a bit less diversity of trolls, these days.

youre not the only one ...

slainte

rob

Spe3D · Post by **Spe3D** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:03 pm

xoxos wrote:
ever used a genre-based forum? half the bloody threads end up being people chasing each other off to the 'proper' BOX, just like western culture..

go london!

You are right - there are many many forms - one forum (one section for everything) is a good idea - it is also a good idea to have mood sections (like at the auditorium) and also limited style sections that cover immense scope (like at the auditorium)- its classification made easy.

Some guys like more and more very strict classifications, for academic or commercial reasons - hence the big big sites like soundclick.

This is just one extra diversity that has been added, its a mega scope of styles (some maybe yet to be badged)

Its immense - but I like to keep it simple (like at the auditorium), not too simple and not too ott that it becomes what you are essentially getting at - mega genera listings with strict guidelines.

BOX?

Best regards,

Peter

pHz · Post by **pHz** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:03 pm

Amberience wrote:You read me wrong. Its not about a constructive response. Its about ANY response. Someone might actually listen to my music in a place that is aimed at experimental music.

fair enough ... i probably DID infer more than you wrote ... too late to go back now though ...

slainte

rob

intel · Post by **intel** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:11 pm

runagate wrote:I lack context for many of your idioms.

most humans do.

xoxos · Post by **xoxos** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:11 pm

>
How can 'experimental' be even considered a genre in the first place?

by discretion, ie. creating a forum.. sorta delineates the concept of 'seperate things' real well when you make a place to talk bout them... but don't worry about considering that that's sorta implicit or nakedly obvious, keep pumping until you spurt. after all, "this box is yours, there are many like it, but..."

hey, you get what you want. a special place just for "you!" paid for with coin of the realm. and don't forget the tip on the way out.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:15 pm

pHz wrote:no idea ... what do you reckon ???

Difficult to say, but I would generally expect a greater degree of maturity from those who are less concerned about following a specific genre and more interested in making their own genre-less way for their own reasons.

because (to me) the danger (however slight) of insularity and incest seems to run counter to the idea of experimentation and innovation ...

Better to be individually isolated in order to continue that self-serving sense of being the 'enlightened outsider' ?

i know the concept of the new forum is MAYBE less about the music and more about its inception / process / philosophy but IMHO even such 'background' discussions as these only make sense if taking place in a diverse context of more 'conventional' forms and artists (which COULD be the rest of the auditorium anyway) ...

I dont see why. I'm not convinced that 'experimentalism' can only be experienced as a reference point to 'convention'.

xoxos · Post by **xoxos** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:15 pm

Amberience wrote:Rurik, I already said earlier that "Experimental" is not a genre. Its an approach, a mindset.

a "mindset.."

all nice and specific isn't it, some things are experimental, some things aren't..

"..it's not a douche. it's a way of life.. a refreshing romantic morning of violets and chirping birds.."

and we shall always remember that things have categories, and some things are one category, and other things are another...

.... nice garden, and who made this cute little path?

Sickle · Post by **Sickle** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:16 pm

xoxos wrote:"this box is yours, there are many like it, but..."

You're way out of line, buddy.

xoxos · Post by **xoxos** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:18 pm

whyterabbyt wrote: ...and are the other half supercilious comments from you about how f**king enlightened you are cos you like to play your second-hand Carlos Castenada "me so smart cos Im one with the natives" act all the time?

oh man, you're really tearing me down there, how did you know i just made it all up so i could get out my teeny wanger at kvr because you are so good in bed.

xoxos · Post by **xoxos** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:19 pm

Sickle wrote:
You're way out of line, buddy.

must be nice to have one of those to tell you where to go, eg. to your BOX and all....

gee, i guess now you say that i oughta just shut up and let you go about BOXthink huh

what you gonna do next, i getting worried, real afraid. you step over that line, and lololololollo and i also forgot to mention hahhahahahaha

tuz · Post by **tuz** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:21 pm

you're all a bunch of young turks!!! :p

Spe3D · Post by **Spe3D** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:23 pm

xoxos wrote:>
How can 'experimental' be even considered a genre in the first place?

by discretion, ie. creating a forum.. sorta delineates the concept of 'seperate things' real well when you make a place to talk bout them... but don't worry about considering that that's sorta implicit or nakedly obvious, keep pumping until you spurt. after all, "this box is yours, there are many like it, but..."

hey, you get what you want. a special place just for "you!" paid for with coin of the realm. and don't forget the tip on the way out.

Think of it however you want - eveyone has an idea of what is - and what is not

You are posting in your box from your box in this box right here

Best regards,

Peter

Sickle · Post by **Sickle** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:23 pm

xoxos wrote:
Sickle wrote:
You're way out of line, buddy.
must be nice to have one of those to tell you where to go, eg. to your BOX and all....

All this bullshit just to prevent another forum registration.

experimental wing of kvr?