KVR Audio

stephenpaulharper · Post by **stephenpaulharper** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:11 am

Is there such a thing as a free or cheap player that loads and plays multisample .wav instruments? I normally use Sampletank for importing various sound files, but it garbles multisamples and I'm a hopeless idiot when it comes to key mapping.

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Stephen

pljones · Post by **pljones** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:10 am

stephenpaulharper · Post by **stephenpaulharper** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:16 pm

Thanks - I have that already, but I think it only plays one .wav file at time, does it not?

Stephen

ew · Post by ew » Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:24 pm

algodon wrote:Thanks - I have that already, but I think it only plays one .wav file at time, does it not?

Stephen

Are you talking about multi-instrument instead of multi-sampling? All multi-sampling does is let you use different samples OF THE SAME INSTRUMENT in different zones to compensate for formant changes and the like. A multi-instrument lets you put different instruments into zones.

ew

stephenpaulharper · Post by **stephenpaulharper** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:45 pm

Hmm. Well now I'm not sure. I think I'm talking about 1 instrument that is made up of several key mapped and/or velocity mapped .wav files.

dougsyo · Post by **dougsyo** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:31 pm

algodon wrote:Thanks - I have that already, but I think it only plays one .wav file at time, does it not?

sfz is both polyphonic and multitimbral. It can play multisamples (velocity and/or keyrange-mapped) just fine.

sfzed and EXSC can help you turn multisampled wav sets into a .sfz instrument.

Doug

stephenpaulharper · Post by **stephenpaulharper** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:14 pm

Thanks for the tips - the sfzed thing is pretty handy.

Stephen

runagate · Post by **runagate** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:16 am

Nice, I didn't know it did velocity-mapped samples!

pljones · Post by **pljones** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:43 am

[edit]Not[/edit]
just velocity mapped. You've got an incredible amount of control over how the samples are played and triggered. Read René's page and my page for more. Later releases (Dimension, Dimension Pro, Rapture) take the sfz format even further.

learjeff · Post by **learjeff** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:58 pm

Not sure what you mean, pljones, because sfz definitely allows each sample to be mapped based on both key range and velocity, as the sf2 format allows.

In fact, there's nothing to keep you from building a soundfont that has (for example) different instruments in different key zones. Consider a drum kit, where that's taken to extremes: most instruments have only one or a few keys.

The main limitation of sfz by itself is that it plays only one MIDI channel -- but you can run multiple instances of it, and I believe sfz+ (not free) supports multiple channels as well as a GUI with more controls.

No doubt I'm missing your point, but I suspect others would interpret your message the same way I did.

sfz is great.

Cheers
Jeff

PS: got a link to those subsequent versions? There's no link from Rene's page.

pljones · Post by **pljones** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:58 pm

The subsequent version(s) of the sfz spec aren't something I've caught up with yet. I believe they're being talked about over at the Cakewalk forums.

(oops, missing "t" on "not", there

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learjeff · Post by **learjeff** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 3:06 pm

AHA, now I get it! I knew you knew better.

sonicfire · Post by **sonicfire** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 3:14 pm

When will there be a visual Editor for SFZ? If i may ask? Dont want to fiddle with txt files...

pljones · Post by **pljones** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:22 pm

sonicfire, you can use Steve Holt's free sfZed and, of course, the tools like Extreme Sample Converter 3 now support sfz.

Multisample Player?