Opinions; W1 Limiter and TLS Pocket Limiter

[rsmus7]

I use the last weeks mostly W1,

before I often used the poocket limiter.
and yes I find it usefull for adding a bit distortion too.

but also nice for a bit limiting.

and there is the TLs Maximizer, also good for some tasks.

[ouroboros]

for strictly limiting, I use BuzMaxi3

[fabi]

for strictly limiting, I use BuzMaxi3

me, too - definitely. i think i trashed tls pocket limiter, because that damn bug where basically no sound gets through anymore occured way too often. and W1 didn't provide any visual feedback.

for strictly limiting, buzmaxi3 provides what little controls are necessary and even allows to turn off the visuals to save cpu.

[ouroboros]

for strictly limiting, buzmaxi3 provides what little controls are necessary and even allows to turn off the visuals to save cpu.

'yep, well said. that really nails why I use it!

[olafmol]

The pocket limiter is simply superb. I had a rock/pop mix here where it totally smoked even Elephant 2! I haven't been able to get that good results on hiphop nor dance material. It simply pumps a bit "wrong" somehow.

Cheers!
bManic

i agree....for really non-transparant limiting like you hear in a lot of house and hiphop tracks pocket limiter is my limiter of choice...even if i have UAD and Voxengo stuff

Olaf

[pw]

i think i trashed tls pocket limiter, because that damn bug where basically no sound gets through anymore occured way too often.

I almost want to trash mine too because of this problem, I think it is also in saturated driver. but I like the sound, so I persist...

[ddummer]

Could the bugged ducking people confirm that the bugger
is gone.......

http://hem.bredband.net/tbtaudio/vstplu ... _v1-11.zip

//Daniel

[diverdee]

Nice - a new pocket limiter.
Never noticed the problem myself, but .....
...Cool

[fabi]

Could the bugged ducking people confirm that the bugger
is gone.......

http://hem.bredband.net/tbtaudio/vstplu ... _v1-11.zip

//Daniel

cool, will give it a try.

[michu]

Daniel, sorry
this one still goes fubar over time...

[michu]

btw, the bug is not present if knee knob is set to 0%
this mutilates plugin functionality tho'

[ddummer]

Could you send me a snippet of whatever audio you process
since I can´t get it to act like you describe?

//Daniel

[defjamm]

So true but clipping in a 32bit Host can be a bit weird. Best clipping that I have found is Elephant 2. It has a clip mode but still allows you to oversample. This provides different "character" of clipping. I usually end up using x2 or x3 oversampling a bit depending on the input source.

Cheers!
bManic

damn i replied to you in the wrong thread lol
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 8&start=15

there are 3 plug-ins that i like more than elephant for that punchy distorted clipping sound:
ozone 3(in intelligent mode, slider on the left in clipping mode), the sonic timeworks mastering compressor in hard mode
http://www.sonictimeworks.com/demos.php
and the t-racks clipper(i don't like the rest in it, but the clipper is useful).

[bmanic]

Interesting. Thanks for the tips, will check out the demos of these again.

Cheers!
bManic

[martian]

damn i replied to you in the wrong thread lol
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 8&start=15

guess i'll reply to your post here

@bmanic: i tried the clip-mode in elephant(with oversampling) on a 'rap'-drumloop versus clipping in the daw and clip-mode in ozone 3. i did't like the clip-mode in elephant, it seemed less 'punchy', the snare was smaller(maybe because it has less distortion?). i will try it more.

yes its less punchy and less distortion ('nice' clipping), i dont find it preserves punch much better than limitng. ive asked aleksey to consider a 'soft' parameter.

meanwhile try something like this (the soft parameter makes it more tunable than daw clipping): http://homepages.tesco.net/~graham.yead ... /gclip.htm

no oversampling though.

my new fav. for that clipped sound is ozone 3 from izotope. the clipped mode(it's actually called intelligent-mode with different modes to choose from) sounds punchy and you don't have to bounce and load a file again to lower the output, you can do it in the limiter-section + it has one if not the best dithering and prevents intersample-peaks.

with gclip you just pull down the ceiling ('clip' parameter), so you can hear all the artifacts objectively without any volume change. no bounce and reload needed.

tried ozone, find it odd the dc filter comes after limiting? i get 0.1 overshoots in sx with it enabled. the oversample feature is cool. otherwise it has all the good traits of clipping: punch, punch and punch . i like the character set to 0.2, slighlty less punch so would have to go for a lower volume, but less distortion too. odd how the character at 0.1 seems to be the same as 0? anyway, shame there isnt more soft control.