IS CUBASE SE ENOUGH??

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Tracktion looks good? You know. I like form, and I know function matters. If the form is alright and the function is awesome, it can be looked over (Ableton live looks terrible after awhile, but it's excusable) but tracktion -looks- so absolutely TERRIBLE. I wouldn't touch that thing with 3,000 foot pole. I mean SERIOUSLY, I could make a better looking interface in MS Paint.

Yes, I have to say, I tried tracktion, but I guess from where I'm coming from I couldn't get my head around. The concept is interesting, but not my style.
I still need that seperate mixing interface.
I have live LE that came with my UR80, but I've already got too many programs to play with, so that will have to wait....

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Might be worth trying to get hold of Cubasis (Amazon.co.uk has copies for about £15 ($30 CA) and then going here even with shipping and import you may come out ahead. Probably have to check with Arbiter UK that they'd be willing to help out.

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Might be worth trying to get hold of Cubasis (Amazon.co.uk has copies for about £15 ($30 CA) and then going here even with shipping and import you may come out ahead. Probably have to check with Arbiter UK that they'd be willing to help out.

An interesting page from Steinberg Canada.

http://www.steinbergcanada.com/buy_canadian.htm

[anzoid]

Wow, they're pretty serious aren't they.

"Any American dealer who sells Steinberg products to a Canadian resident does a grave, horrible and heartless disservice to that customer."

I'll need to check whether that policy exists for my UK bought copy of Cubasis - not that I've needed support as yet but I might be stuffed for an upgrade...

[scuzzphut]

to answer the question - there are 5 inserts plus the usual 4-band EQ on the output channel in Cubase SE3

[anzoid]

Thanks Scuzzphut. SE3 goes on the wishlist

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LE is the version that comes free with certain pieces of hardware. SE is better. I'd buy it now while you can. It's not all that different from SE3 and best of all... you DON'T need a dongle! SE is the way to go.

OOPS! Yeah, LE is the one that is bundled, as I just checked my LE machine, believeing that I had SE...actually didn't realize there is an SE/LE duo. Thanks, for the clarification.

However, as most of us agree, acquiring some of these products in bundles can be a good thing for a lot of users who haven't played around with stuff and a great upgrade path. FYI: I got into Cubase (and HDD recording) via a copy of Cubasis that was bundled with a MIDI controller I bought years ago.

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Yes, I agree, I'm not going to be rushed into upgrading before I'm ready, I still want to work with my existing software even after I get a new computer.

If that's the case, I probably wouldn't consider the full upgrade to SX3 yet. I've considered it quite alot...and there's nothing humungous in SX3 that's made me need to upgrade from SX2 - sure, there are some nice additions that I could use, but no big leaps into another dimension of digital recording (as it were... )

I suspect SX4 will be out within a year - I don't think it's going to be this half of the year, but who knows? But I'd be a little surprised if they didn't release SX4 before the year's out, and now Yamaha own Steinberg...there's always the possibility that there might be some quite useful/unusual stuff in their first Cubase release. If Yamaha are interested in Cubase at all (which they might not be...it's a minor company in terms of their overall finance) then SX4 is the one they'll want to impress with. And I specifically mention this point, because Yamaha are a well known audio company with a proven track record - both with h/w and s/w, analogue and digital. The previous Steinberg owners weren't...they just presumably wanted to expand into new territories. Steinberg are now in a good position to stay ahead of the pack IMO - and SX4 should be the version to do it. Timing is everything.

So...maybe go for SE or whatever - but then if SX4 turns out to be this amazing have-to-have host, you'll still have to upgrade from SE - I suspect it'll be cheaper to do one upgrade direct, than 2 upgrades in steps. It boils down to...if you've been used to VST/32, there'll be some features you won't be happy being without. I couldn't have gone from VST5.1 -> a cut-down version of SX. When you spend the money, you want more in an upgrade, not less...


SX3 is good, but probably not something you really have to have right now. SX4 might not be either, but it's more likely to be than SX3. And if you have to upgrade right now, then I'd seriously look at buying a 2nd hand license for SX2 - I've been more than happy with it, it's stable, and it should be cheaper than upgrading to SX3 (I think you can transfer licenses still?).


Call it Western greed or whatever - but with a host, once you've got one of the big ones, it's those little luxuries that you will miss. You'll only be miserable with a lesser version (at least I would be...)

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Yes, I agree, I'm not going to be rushed into upgrading before I'm ready, I still want to work with my existing software even after I get a new computer.

If that's the case, I probably wouldn't consider the full upgrade to SX3 yet. I've considered it quite alot...and there's nothing humungous in SX3 that's made me need to upgrade from SX2 - sure, there are some nice additions that I could use, but no big leaps into another dimension of digital recording (as it were... )

I suspect SX4 will be out within a year - I don't think it's going to be this half of the year, but who knows? But I'd be a little surprised if they didn't release SX4 before the year's out, and now Yamaha own Steinberg...there's always the possibility that there might be some quite useful/unusual stuff in their first Cubase release. If Yamaha are interested in Cubase at all (which they might not be...it's a minor company in terms of their overall finance) then SX4 is the one they'll want to impress with. And I specifically mention this point, because Yamaha are a well known audio company with a proven track record - both with h/w and s/w, analogue and digital. The previous Steinberg owners weren't...they just presumably wanted to expand into new territories. Steinberg are now in a good position to stay ahead of the pack IMO - and SX4 should be the version to do it. Timing is everything.

So...maybe go for SE or whatever - but then if SX4 turns out to be this amazing have-to-have host, you'll still have to upgrade from SE - I suspect it'll be cheaper to do one upgrade direct, than 2 upgrades in steps. It boils down to...if you've been used to VST/32, there'll be some features you won't be happy being without. I couldn't have gone from VST5.1 -> a cut-down version of SX. When you spend the money, you want more in an upgrade, not less...


SX3 is good, but probably not something you really have to have right now. SX4 might not be either, but it's more likely to be than SX3. And if you have to upgrade right now, then I'd seriously look at buying a 2nd hand license for SX2 - I've been more than happy with it, it's stable, and it should be cheaper than upgrading to SX3 (I think you can transfer licenses still?).


Call it Western greed or whatever - but with a host, once you've got one of the big ones, it's those little luxuries that you will miss. You'll only be miserable with a lesser version (at least I would be...)

I agree, VST is doing all I need it to do now. It's not like SX comes out and all of a sudden, VST is worthless...
I think we get too caught up in the sequencer upgrade fad, and don't use what we have.