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topaz · Post by **topaz** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:35 pm

same here

BuzzMaxi 3 sits on my master out perm

great limiter. and free

ouroboros wrote:for strictly limiting, I use BuzMaxi3

Killvehicle · Post by **Killvehicle** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:43 pm

The W1 is pretty damn good, but I find it doesnt perform to great on loudness maximizing. YOU can squeeze a couple (3-5db's) out of it before it introduces distortion. BUt the Waves L1 is the same way, SO in that regard I think it IS a very good clone of the L1. BUt with that being said the W1 is great on individual tracks that need it. PUt it on some ambient drum room mics, or on bass guitar and it has a that certain "sound" that good plugs provide.

_starcraft_ · Post by **_starcraft_** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:43 pm

buzzmaxi3 is PERFECT! thanks for pointing it out!

Glassback · Post by **Glassback** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:01 pm

Another vote for the W1 here.

multree · Post by **multree** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:08 pm

oh and there is a new bugfix of the betabugs version coming along very soonish

zeoy · Post by **zeoy** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:13 pm

Dont know why but I (subconciously) chose W1

ddummer · Post by **ddummer** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:50 pm

The dropping volume bug is fixed.

http://hem.bredband.net/tbtaudio/vstplu ... r_v1-2.zip

.... and Michu! You should clean some stuff in your e-mail
inbox since it is full and refuse any more e-mails...

//Daniel

reprznt · Post by **reprznt** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:53 pm

thanks for the updated vst..... your effects are wonderful

Juanjo · Post by **Juanjo** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:56 pm

Indeed! Thanks a bunch

Killvehicle · Post by **Killvehicle** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:18 pm

Man I went ahead and tried out the Pocket Limiter again, since I tried it quite awhile ago and I had some problems with the volume drop, but Man this is really a phenomonal free limiter, I compared it next to Voxengo Elephant and it was just as good, maybe even better!! I actually stopped using my Waves L2 becasue I like Elephant better. And now I rediscover this freebie that is freaking just as good and I may even like the character better!!

I just a/b'ed 4 different limiters, and BUzMAxi 3 is by far the harshest when pushed, I didnt like it for heavy music, that I tend to record. As I said the Pocket Limiter and Elephant were very close and Wavelabs Peak Master did a very admirable job as well, to my surprise.

sinkmusic · Post by **sinkmusic** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:19 pm

Nice limiter indeed, but increasing the gain knob causes hearing some glitch...

c_huelsbeck · Post by **c_huelsbeck** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:28 pm

defjamm wrote:
jmbriley wrote:
martian wrote:what kind of music?
Hip Hop
try clipping, a lot of the commercial stuff is clipped too.

Clipping is dangerous to audio equipment, especially to speakers when played at high volumes, but it can also damage Amps... a mathematical square wave is also not known in nature, so I wouldn't be surprised if it could damage your hearing as well...

defjamm · Post by **defjamm** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:35 pm

martian wrote:
defjamm wrote:damn i replied to you in the wrong thread lol
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 8&start=15
guess i'll reply to your post here

defjamm wrote:
martian wrote:
defjamm wrote:@bmanic: i tried the clip-mode in elephant(with oversampling) on a 'rap'-drumloop versus clipping in the daw and clip-mode in ozone 3. i did't like the clip-mode in elephant, it seemed less 'punchy', the snare was smaller(maybe because it has less distortion?). i will try it more.
yes its less punchy and less distortion ('nice' clipping), i dont find it preserves punch much better than limitng. ive asked aleksey to consider a 'soft' parameter.

meanwhile try something like this (the soft parameter makes it more tunable than daw clipping): http://homepages.tesco.net/~graham.yead ... /gclip.htm

no oversampling though.
my new fav. for that clipped sound is ozone 3 from izotope. the clipped mode(it's actually called intelligent-mode with different modes to choose from) sounds punchy and you don't have to bounce and load a file again to lower the output, you can do it in the limiter-section + it has one if not the best dithering and prevents intersample-peaks.
with gclip you just pull down the ceiling ('clip' parameter), so you can hear all the artifacts objectively without any volume change. no bounce and reload needed.

tried ozone, find it odd the dc filter comes after limiting? i get 0.1 overshoots in sx with it enabled. the oversample feature is cool. otherwise it has all the good traits of clipping: punch, punch and punch . i like the character set to 0.2, slighlty less punch so would have to go for a lower volume, but less distortion too. odd how the character at 0.1 seems to be the same as 0? anyway, shame there isnt more soft control.

thank you for the link to gclip, it does all i need for clipping without extra bouncing and it's free, great!
i have the same behavior as you with ozone and the dc-filter, so when i need -0.3 i simply set it to -0.4.

martian · Post by **martian** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:24 pm

c_huelsbeck wrote:Clipping is dangerous to audio equipment, especially to speakers when played at high volumes, but it can also damage Amps... a mathematical square wave is also not known in nature, so I wouldn't be surprised if it could damage your hearing as well...

clipping hardware audio equipment can damage it, playing a pre-clipped waveform is a different matter i think.

every 'step' in a digitalised waveform is a mathematical square wave. but upon playback through a d/a the nyquist filter will remove everything above 22.5k creating a smooth continuous analog waveform. as long as you have intersample peaks covered, all you may really be in danger of is creating a very fatiquing mix, that clips further when converted to mp3.

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:36 pm

I suppose W1 gets less transparent with heavy limiting, but I don't find it "undesirable" until at least -15db threshold on a whole mix, or -25ish on an individual track!

Then again, it might be just a matter of not knowing what I'm missing, not having access to some of the more expensive and renowned limiters.

Greg

Opinions; W1 Limiter and TLS Pocket Limiter