If I sample a drum machine can I legally provide SF2's?

[John Vulich]

While they're at it, somebody better get their shit together and shutdown Hyperreal.org too. They host an awful lot of samples of Synths and Drum Machines from a multitude of manufacturers...

http://machines.hyperreal.org/samples.html

ARP Odyssey
Akai MPC
Boss DR-110
Boss DR-220
Boss DR-55
Casio CZ
Casio RZ-1
Casio SK
Chroma Chroma-Polaris
Fender Chroma-Polaris
Kawai K-3
Kawai SX-synths
Korg KPR-77
Korg KR-55
Korg MS-synths
Linn LinnDrum
Moog MG-1
Moog MicroMoog
Moog MiniMoog
Moog Rogue
Multivox MX-51
Music-and-More VF11
Octave Kitten
Paia Fatman
Paia Vocoder
Rhodes Chroma-Polaris
Roland CompuRhythm
Roland JX
Roland Juno
Roland MC-202
Roland MC-303
Roland MT-32
Roland SH-101
Roland SH-synths
Roland System-100
Roland TR-505
Roland TR-606
Roland TR-626
Roland TR-707
Roland TR-727
Roland TR-808
Roland TR-909
Sequential Drumtraks
Sequential Tom
Siel DK-600
Univox Micro-Rhythmer-12
Yamaha CS-50
Yamaha MR-10
Yamaha RX
Yamaha TX-81z

[John Vulich]

Hollow Sun must be shutdown too!!!

http://www.hollowsun.com/

[Ildon]

It doesn't mean it's right just because people do it. And for all we know, those companies did get permission to use Roland's stuff. If they didn't, then Roland would have the right to sue, I guess.

As for sample libraries... dunno. I'd think they'd get permission to sample and redistribute the stuff so long as some of the money from each purchase goes back to the company responsible for the sounds, maybe?

I could be wrong on all of this, but that's just how I interpreted the license agreement from Edirol.

I don't care enough to persue this anymore, but if you really want to find out, email Roland or any company and ask them about it directly (instead of being dumb, Mr. Vulich.)

[John Vulich]

f**k off.

[SampleStream]

Hollow Sun must be shutdown too!!!

http://www.hollowsun.com/

I think you will find hollowsun as an original content provider to a few hardware sampler manufactures, one of his talents - perfect loops to make large sounds out of the smallest wave sample possible

Best regards,

Peter

[shamann]

This has come up in the past. There was once someone who had dealt specifically with a hardware manufacturer once who chimed in on one of the threads.

I vaguely remember the answer being that only the ROM files are granted copyright, so that you can't rip them out of the machine, stick a software interface on it and sell your virtual machine. But if recording the machine in its normal use (ie via line out) then you weren't infringing on anyone's rights.

I suppose it depends on what info is contained in the documents that comes with the drum machine.

[Kiwburger]

Since the 1990's, a lot of hardware makers have wised up and include legal boilerplate in their hardware end user licenses. Prior to that, it was fair game. You bought a Roland drum machine with the express purpose of using their sounds. Roland never asked for a slice of Michael Jackson's wealth just because he used their sounds. That's what they were made for.

[John Vulich]

Hollow Sun must be shutdown too!!!

http://www.hollowsun.com/

I think you will find hollowsun as an original content provider to a few hardware sampler manufactures, one of his talents - perfect loops to make large sounds out of the smallest wave sample possible

Errr, thanks for the info but what does it have to do with the current discussion?

[SampleStream]

Hollow Sun must be shutdown too!!!

http://www.hollowsun.com/

I think you will find hollowsun as an original content provider to a few hardware sampler manufactures, one of his talents - perfect loops to make large sounds out of the smallest wave sample possible

Errr, thanks for the info but what does it have to do with the current discussion?

You lost me!

I think if ya don't know - then the best thing is to ask the creator of the hardware you want to sample - first - hope that helps

Best regards,

Peter