Whats the diff between eXT and Audio Mulch?

[Lagrange]

Ok ok ppl we all know (and plz dont deny it) xt (which I love a lot) can be fickel when it comes to lock ups etc.. And I've never owned a version of audiomulch (err except maybe like 9.14b) that never crashed when you ask it to do something extra ordinary.. Because composing and arranging are a time sensitive issue for me I dont use xt for audio AT ALL just strickly midi (in a pro enviroment). And have you ever tryed automating like 20 different parameters in mulch simeltaniously?? I hope your packing some tylenol.. I only use it for processing files both are far from stable enough to create lush full arrangements in.. So thats why I posed the question, whats the deal with console???

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[Lagrange]

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=107789

[Amberience]

Never experienced ANY lock-ups with either XT or Mulch. Sorry.

[shamann]

And have you ever tryed automating like 20 different parameters in mulch simeltaniously??

I've had projects in Mulch with well over 50 parameters automated without incident. And Mulch has only crashed on me in the past year from testing for bugs in beta software. Even eXT doesn't freeze up or crash on me very often.

Are you sure you're computer is in good health?

Can't really help with Console. I haven't tried in at least a year, and then it was on an old PC running Win98. I seem to remember running in to some kind of problem with it, but don't know what. As far as I can remember, there's no automation inside Console.

[djastroboy]

So thats why I posed the question, whats the deal with console???

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Bought it early in my VST-using career. Now I hate it. I deleted my license rather than sell it. I couldn't take the guilt of being responsible for contributing that much pain to another living being or evne a musician.

[Amberience]

So thats why I posed the question, whats the deal with console???

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Bought it early in my VST-using career. Now I hate it. I deleted my license rather than sell it. I couldn't take the guilt of being responsible for contributing that much pain to another living being or evne a musician.

Good one chief.

[paradiddle]

And I've never owned a version of audiomulch (err except maybe like 9.14b) that never crashed when you ask it to do something extra ordinary..
L

Plenty of people using mulch in a live context. I don't recall hearing them saying it was an instable software.

And have you ever tryed automating like 20 different parameters in mulch simeltaniously?

Seems to me that you are failing to grasp what audiomulch is about. It's not a sequencer and the author says so too.

[duncanparsons]

thx those who helped out with how I see eXT

jens - yes I do do a similar thing to you. I guess it comes down to looking at your kit bag of tools and working out what will enhance that collection. Having just read your recent debate with LIA concerning manlyness, I offer this analogy..

My toolkit has a hammer, a few saws, a set of spanners and a set of screwdrivers. I also have an electric drill and an electric screwdriver. For what I want to do, I have the majority of bases covered. If I want to change the spark plugs on the car, I can; if I want to put up a shelf, I can; etc. Some things may end up with an element of bodge, but then that's me not the tools..

A manufacturer brings out a device which is a drill, but the motor can be slowed to be used as an electric screwdriver, and has an attachment so that spanners can be attached. Now that looks really interesting to me. I fiddle about at the shop, and try the different 'scenarios' laid before me. The shop has put out wood to drill and screws to screw in. They've even put a mockup of an engine with nuts and bolts to try the spanner with. It is very impressive, but tbh, I can do all these things at the moment. Some things I do require a little more effort, but the overall result is the same.

There are some drawbacks to this new device, tho'. When tightening a wheel nut, I don't want to overtighten it so I use my torque wrench. This new device will tighten the nut, but has no idea of when it is tight enough. Also, I noticed during the demo that I need to be a little more careful over how I set the speed of the motor as a screwdriver, since I found that I might put the screw too deep into the wood. I can repeat the defect with own electric screwdriver, but since it only has one speed setting, this is less likely.

In the end, I decide not to invest in this new item, desirable tho' it is. It would mean that I could dispense with other tools, but since I have already made an investment in those tools I would rather see the investment put to good use whilst those tools still work as I need them to. When my electric screwdriver stops working, or I loose the spanner set, I will happily return to the device and re-evaluate.

eXT is a great bit of kit, but 'for what I do' I have the bases comfortably covered. If I wanted a modular host that did that little bit more, then my first stop would be eXT. I'm even developing simple plugs with eXT in mind (tho' they workin in any host).

So there we are!

DSP

[duncanparsons]

btw - I'm terrible at DIY, so don't get the wrong impression!

[jens]

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for an example (plug plug plug!) my track inHeavenHeDanced

even if you're actually on my ingnore-list I have to chime in to say that this track is just wonderful!

by ingnore im guessing you mean ignore you knob,could you tell me how i get on there too

now that there's a mute button you're in (actually you've been one of the first).

[shamann]

You waited five months just to say that? You're an odd fellow, Jens.

[jens]

You waited five months just to say that? You're an odd fellow, Jens.

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1715756



(yes, I know how to use the search-function.... )

[shamann]

You're still an odd fellow, Jens.

[jens]

if you say so...

[pHz]

no ... you ARE ...

slainte rob