Hi, this is my first post, does any one no how to use the side chain(C1)in waves Platinum super bundle with cubase sx 2,
I've read up on a few forum's but nothing helped!!
Please could someone help!!!!
Waves side chain HELP!!!!
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- KVRer
- 1 posts since 6 Mar, 2006
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- KVRian
- 831 posts since 7 Sep, 2004
The side-chain in the C1 is internal. This means one channel is the modulator, the other is the target.
If you want to use the C1 as a stereo sidechain compressor, you'll need two of them parallel, one for each channel.
If you want to use the C1 as a stereo sidechain compressor, you'll need two of them parallel, one for each channel.
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- KVRist
- 425 posts since 9 Nov, 2004
Hello, it is possible. I have done it... you need a work around as SX is not really built for the job. There is another similar guide in another trance forum I followed, but this looks about the same. Hope it works as you want it to 
Here is a quote from tranceaddict forums by Sirocco:
"I will be using a vsti synth for the audio part to be compressed, vsti drum machine for the sidechain and obviously a compressor plugin that supports sidechaining. This tutorial will be generic, just so you will know how to set up sidechain (I will be using the Waves C1 comp-sc so the settings for a different compressor may differ, consult its manual).
1) open a new (empty) project and move the right marker to measure 5 so you can have a 4 measure loop (enable loop mode on the transport)
2)add 2 midi tracks and a stereo group track.
3) place the synth as the midi out on the first midi track, and the drum machine on the second midi track (the synth patch should be able to play a constant note for the duration of the loop so it will be easier to hear the comp kicking in, and the drum machine should have a nice strong kick with a fast attack time).
4) draw in the midi for the 2 midi channels. The synth is going to be 1 continuous note that takes up the full 4 bars. The drums should only be the kick once per beat.
5) add the C1 comp-sc as an insert device on the group channel.
6) Now we start the routing. In the inspector, Set the output of the synth's AUDIO channel (not the midi channel) to the input of the group and set the pan to hard right.
7) For the drum's audio channel (again NOT the midi channel) put in a pre-fader send to the group (in the channel settings window). Make sure that the send is "on" and that the send level is raised to at least 0db. Now pan the send to hard left (the pan parameter is only visible on the send when in routing mode, found in the little black box at the top right of the channel settings window) We want this to be pre-fader so we can turn down this channel's fader and not change the send's level to the group (compressor).
play back the loop, if everything is set up correctly you should hear the synth on the right, the drums on both left and right (although slightly higher volume on the left ( now that it is going through 2 channels). If the group's fader is turned down all the way then the synth should not be heard and the kick (if mono) should be equal on both sides.
9) Now to set up the compressor. For "EQ mode" select "sidechain". For "key mode" select "L --> R" , this sets the kick as the sidechain key and the synth's signal as what is to be controlled by the key. For "monitor" select "sidechain". This will make it so you only hear the kick through the compressor. Now adjust the "threshold" and "ratio" so that there is about -12db on the "gain reduction meter". This is going to be the amount of compression applied to the synth's audio based on the level of the kick (sidechain key). Finally go back to "monitor" and select audio. Now you should be able to hear the synth played but with compression applied every time the kick sounds. Continue to adjusts the compressor's parameters to get the desired effect (ducking, pumping, etc..).
If you want to hear the synth only, then turn down the drum's audio channel fader all the way. Since the send on this channel is "pre-fader" it will not affect the amount of signal going to the compressor."
Here is a quote from tranceaddict forums by Sirocco:
"I will be using a vsti synth for the audio part to be compressed, vsti drum machine for the sidechain and obviously a compressor plugin that supports sidechaining. This tutorial will be generic, just so you will know how to set up sidechain (I will be using the Waves C1 comp-sc so the settings for a different compressor may differ, consult its manual).
1) open a new (empty) project and move the right marker to measure 5 so you can have a 4 measure loop (enable loop mode on the transport)
2)add 2 midi tracks and a stereo group track.
3) place the synth as the midi out on the first midi track, and the drum machine on the second midi track (the synth patch should be able to play a constant note for the duration of the loop so it will be easier to hear the comp kicking in, and the drum machine should have a nice strong kick with a fast attack time).
4) draw in the midi for the 2 midi channels. The synth is going to be 1 continuous note that takes up the full 4 bars. The drums should only be the kick once per beat.
5) add the C1 comp-sc as an insert device on the group channel.
6) Now we start the routing. In the inspector, Set the output of the synth's AUDIO channel (not the midi channel) to the input of the group and set the pan to hard right.
7) For the drum's audio channel (again NOT the midi channel) put in a pre-fader send to the group (in the channel settings window). Make sure that the send is "on" and that the send level is raised to at least 0db. Now pan the send to hard left (the pan parameter is only visible on the send when in routing mode, found in the little black box at the top right of the channel settings window) We want this to be pre-fader so we can turn down this channel's fader and not change the send's level to the group (compressor).
play back the loop, if everything is set up correctly you should hear the synth on the right, the drums on both left and right (although slightly higher volume on the left ( now that it is going through 2 channels). If the group's fader is turned down all the way then the synth should not be heard and the kick (if mono) should be equal on both sides.9) Now to set up the compressor. For "EQ mode" select "sidechain". For "key mode" select "L --> R" , this sets the kick as the sidechain key and the synth's signal as what is to be controlled by the key. For "monitor" select "sidechain". This will make it so you only hear the kick through the compressor. Now adjust the "threshold" and "ratio" so that there is about -12db on the "gain reduction meter". This is going to be the amount of compression applied to the synth's audio based on the level of the kick (sidechain key). Finally go back to "monitor" and select audio. Now you should be able to hear the synth played but with compression applied every time the kick sounds. Continue to adjusts the compressor's parameters to get the desired effect (ducking, pumping, etc..).
If you want to hear the synth only, then turn down the drum's audio channel fader all the way. Since the send on this channel is "pre-fader" it will not affect the amount of signal going to the compressor."
