KVR Audio

arke · Post by **arke** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:11 am

BONES wrote:Do you really think you can get by without WaspXT? Try 'em all, but you and I both know you'll be back. Do you really not have a paid-for license?

well, theoretically he can buy WaspXT as a VST from Image-Line for $20

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:13 am

BONES wrote:Do you really think you can get by without WaspXT? Try 'em all, but you and I both know you'll be back. Do you really not have a paid-for license?

You will of course still be able to use your favourite Orion synths in Ableton, possibly as VST instruments (if Orion lets you) or else simply by rewiring Orion into Ableton.

(Having tried other hosts - and as a Sonar user

- I understand why a lot of people don't like rewire, but in Ableton Live rewire actually works, and very well. For example you can automate clip envelopes directly in Live itself for the synth/effect parameters in the rewire slave application, and unlike (it seems) some other hosts, Ableton also sets up proper routing - as many MIDI outputs as you need and with stereo returns for everything.)

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:15 am

arke wrote:
BONES wrote:Do you really think you can get by without WaspXT? Try 'em all, but you and I both know you'll be back. Do you really not have a paid-for license?
well, theoretically he can buy WaspXT as a VST from Image-Line for $20

diff beast altogether, and i wouldnt buy from them, as you know. (and i never said i was selling or going to stop using Orion)

opia · Post by **opia** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:16 am

You'll find P5 is more similar to orion as far as patterns and the playlist

You'll most likely find yourself wanting to go back to Orion after using it too

I say go for Live

arke · Post by **arke** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:17 am

Kriminal wrote:
arke wrote:
BONES wrote:Do you really think you can get by without WaspXT? Try 'em all, but you and I both know you'll be back. Do you really not have a paid-for license?
well, theoretically he can buy WaspXT as a VST from Image-Line for $20
diff beast altogether, and i wouldnt buy from them, as you know. (and i never said i was selling or going to stop using Orion)

no no no, not a different beast anymore ... it used to only be Wasp but now with FL6 its WaspXT as well

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:18 am

arke wrote:
Kriminal wrote:
arke wrote:
BONES wrote:Do you really think you can get by without WaspXT? Try 'em all, but you and I both know you'll be back. Do you really not have a paid-for license?
well, theoretically he can buy WaspXT as a VST from Image-Line for $20
diff beast altogether, and i wouldnt buy from them, as you know. (and i never said i was selling or going to stop using Orion)
no no no, not a different beast anymore ... it used to only be Wasp but now with FL6 its WaspXT as well

nope, its still diff...and it doesnt matter.

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:20 am

I don't think he's going near Image Line, arke

papawillow · Post by **papawillow** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:36 am

Consider Making Waves,, it is fast to get ideas happening which makes it quite fun to compose with.

http://www.makingwavessoftware.com/tour.html

arke · Post by **arke** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:46 am

Kriminal wrote:
arke wrote:
Kriminal wrote:
arke wrote:
BONES wrote:Do you really think you can get by without WaspXT? Try 'em all, but you and I both know you'll be back. Do you really not have a paid-for license?
well, theoretically he can buy WaspXT as a VST from Image-Line for $20
diff beast altogether, and i wouldnt buy from them, as you know. (and i never said i was selling or going to stop using Orion)
no no no, not a different beast anymore ... it used to only be Wasp but now with FL6 its WaspXT as well
nope, its still diff...and it doesnt matter.

doesn't matter to me if you buy it or not, just saying that its not different any more

Milos · Post by **Milos** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 12:58 pm

Forthcoming Sony Acid Pro 6 looks nice

http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/produc ... ochure.pdf

> DiGiT < · Post by **> DiGiT <** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:32 pm

i was gonna say making waves too... pattern everything! and a host. just dont expect too much. im always ranslating things out of making waves to live or muzys.

mahtazz · Post by **mahtazz** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:52 pm

EnergyXT has patterns, too.

jens · Post by **jens** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:52 pm

what's wrong about eXT that all these expensive & (imho inferior) apps are being suggested?

grymmjack · Post by **grymmjack** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:53 pm

crimsonwarlock wrote:Krim, just a completely different suggestion: take a look at MadTracker. Nothing beats a tracker for controlability in a pattern format and MadTracker can host VST/VSTi, has a decent mixer and can be rewired into Orion. Best of all you can download it for free (it seems that they have paid options where the software is linked to webspace iirc).

renoise is another great tracker. i own both of them. madtracker supports rewire

grymmjack · Post by **grymmjack** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:58 pm

arke wrote:
Kriminal wrote:
arke wrote:
Kriminal wrote:
arke wrote:
BONES wrote:Do you really think you can get by without WaspXT? Try 'em all, but you and I both know you'll be back. Do you really not have a paid-for license?
well, theoretically he can buy WaspXT as a VST from Image-Line for $20
diff beast altogether, and i wouldnt buy from them, as you know. (and i never said i was selling or going to stop using Orion)
no no no, not a different beast anymore ... it used to only be Wasp but now with FL6 its WaspXT as well
nope, its still diff...and it doesnt matter.
doesn't matter to me if you buy it or not, just saying that its not different any more

What is the difference between the IL Wasp VSTi and WaspXT inside Orion? Can someone list them? I know that the look was different, but as arke mentioned the look has been updated (not the external one yet though only the one that is FL specific to my knowledge)

*sold*

sold