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bobby yarrow · Post by **bobby yarrow** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:57 pm

I'm gutted at the idea of dropping $150 on something as subtle and single-purpose as this. I have 13 days to decide, but I'm think I'm going to have a hard time giving it up.

Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:06 pm

I'm gutted at the idea of dropping $150 on something as subtle and single-purpose as this.

Well in the UK the real thing goes for £350 - £500 ($600-$800 i believe), so that's quite a saving. If i had a UAD and if this thing is good i would buy it. i want a Dimension D for SCOPE

(have to make do with my Dimension C footpedal).

Mr A

greendoor · Post by **greendoor** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:42 am

It's a great effect, but nothing that somebody with synthedit couldn't rip off. I remember the guitar pedal versions, and I remember being very disappointed in the digital version. You could actually hear the modulation more distinctly, which was a disadvantage. It was very obviously a slow squarish wave modulation. So that gives you a sort of pitch shift quality, that makes the odd abrupt change. The analog BBD version was much better, because the highs were so munted you couldn't really hear the abrubt transitions.

Anyway - Kjaerhus GMO-1 can do squarish wave frequency modulation. You can also sync to tempo, which would help disguise the transitions. It can also be offset by 180 degrees, so you could set up two instances, 180 degrees apart. From memory, they were set at two different delay times. With enough low pass filtering to take off the top end, the end result should be very convincing. A nice stereo pitch shift chorus is fairly similar. Or something like CloneEnsemble, used with a filter, should get you there.

In it's day it was quite something, but I think we have plenty of wide stereo yummy chorus effects that are just as good. But few people think about using square waves to modulate chorus, and that - I think - is the guts of the Dimension sound.

Frippertronix · Post by **Frippertronix** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:55 am

On a bit of a side note---since since Roland's Dimension effects excell at rich but subtle modulation/thickening, try this one if you haven't already. One of the best all purpose choruses for adding dimension to an instrument sound I've ever used:

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1915.html

greendoor · Post by **greendoor** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:06 am

Yeah - that Ag-works chorus is fantastic. I prefer it to Kjaerhus and Voxengo, which is saying something. Try them all in mono - a lot of chorus effects crap out in mono.

Frippertronix · Post by **Frippertronix** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:09 am

greendoor wrote:Yeah - that Ag-works chorus is fantastic. I prefer it to Kjaerhus and Voxengo, which is saying something. Try them all in mono - a lot of chorus effects crap out in mono.

I mentioned it not only because of the quality, but because it does that trick certain mod effects (like Dimension D) do, which is to blend almost seamlessly into the instrument, enhancing it but almost being unnoticeable. GMO-1 can do that on some of the more subtle settings, but it seems to stand out a bit more even then.

bobby yarrow · Post by **bobby yarrow** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:37 pm

Thanks for the lead on the AG-works chorus. It's a great plugin. Very heavy cpu load on my machine. While I could hear that it could do a subtle, full-band thing like the Dimension D, I wasn't able to quickly dial up anything real close to the enhancement and depth of the Dimension plugin.

It really seems to me that Greendoor must be right -- there shouldn't be anything so unique in this box that it can't be done with another plugin. I'll say that I spent another hour trying to get in the ballpark with GMO-1, and found nothing. I actually think some phaser/exciter combo might be closer.

guitarzan · Post by **guitarzan** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:31 am

Any progress on this front? I actually prefer the Boss Digital Dimension, not as a chorus but rather as a stereo enhancer/3D AudioHallucinogen (rate all the way down). The Digital Dimension was VERY digital sounding when used as a traditional chorus - but was nearly transparent in regards to it's effect on the source tone quality, and VERY trippy used after reverb setup as a stereo enhancer.

Uh...anyway...ya got one of those? (vst)

> DiGiT < · Post by **> DiGiT <** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:38 am

roland dimension c sound demos

guitarzan · Post by **guitarzan** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:26 am

Nice sound clips, >DiGiT<!
Have you found anything close to a Dimension in a plugin?

> DiGiT < · Post by **> DiGiT <** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:57 pm

well, if youre talking about subtle chorusing, i think many plugins will do this sort of thing, you just have to be willing to work with them, and for your sound not to be exactly like a dimension d. just my 2c...

Kiwburger · Post by **Kiwburger** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:06 pm

Voxengo AF Vintage Chorus is close enough for me.

runagate · Post by **runagate** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:06 pm

I really really miss Cool Edit's ancient "Hell's Chorus" preset.

It was extreme and you could use it on a whole mix and it'd make certain elements come out in the mix, extremely twisted.

Ok, so, what else does what Dimension D does?