Im agnostic, can I use your synth?

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Isn't religion just a point of view on life and the world around? Some people believe all that mess is driven by some sort of a higher being, some don't. Judging people or allowing them to do this or that basing on that belief has never ever lead to anything good, so please let's not do that here.

If a guy told you you can't use his synth if you like the colour blue, because he thinks blue is very bad, would you treat him seriously? Rather not. So what makes you treat him seriously when he's substituting colour with religion?

Really, please guys, don't mix music with religion - nothing worse then a cool track spoilt by lyrics about babilon, lord our saviour, allah and such. ;)
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Religion is insanity...read the bible, it's all about religion and the world powers behind it and how it's going down....but anyway....I don't think it's wrong to mix spirituality and music as music is spritual and you cannot remove it by nature, be it good or bad.

Something motivated and inspired you to create it, what/who was it? Yourself?
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>>Really, please guys, don't mix music with religion - nothing worse then a cool track spoilt by lyrics about babilon, lord our saviour, allah and such. Wink

Hmm. When I read the history of western music, a great deal of it involved religion. Same with art.

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LiquidClear wrote:...read the bible, it's all about religion...
Best quote ever!!!111111!!11111111111111111111111111111111111111111LOLOLOL!!!!111111!

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It's OK to mix music and religion as long as it doesn't sound like it.

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bduffy wrote:It's OK to mix music and religion as long as it doesn't sound like it.
Sufjan Stevens and Low are great examples of "religous" artists who don't sound the least bit jesused.

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LiquidClear wrote:Something motivated and inspired you to create it, what/who was it? Yourself?
Most probably, yes. I'd call it brain self-resonance - hearing sounds that are not there and then finding pleasure in reproducing those sounds in reality (what is reality anyway?).

As I said, any phenomenon that does not have a satisfying scientific answer could be explained using the higher being paradigm - or not, up to each person to choose their own answer. Just don't judge each other basing on the choice.
mistertoast wrote:Hmm. When I read the history of western music, a great deal of it involved religion. Same with art.
Surely, but regardless of the origin, nowadays religion hardly ever makes people produce unique and original works of art. Maybe it's no longer inspiring enough? (In the end, how long can you take inspiration from the same bunch of ideas?)
bduffy wrote:It's OK to mix music and religion as long as it doesn't sound like it.
Agreed. As long as it really really doesn't sound like it ;)
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LiquidClear wrote:Something motivated and inspired you to create it, what/who was it? Yourself?
Actually, this guy inspires my music.
Mizutaphile.

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Paulie Phonick wrote:
bduffy wrote:It's OK to mix music and religion as long as it doesn't sound like it.
Agreed. As long as it really really doesn't sound like it ;)
Yeah, or else you'll sound like this:

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Reverse Engineer wrote:
LiquidClear wrote:...read the bible, it's all about religion...
Best quote ever!!!111111!!11111111111111111111111111111111111111111LOLOLOL!!!!111111!
:) Yeah, that did sound really funny. But, seriously the New Testament is about the abolishment of empty 'religion' (man's attempt to work and earn favor with God or self-exaltation) ie you can't save yourself.
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bduffy wrote:
Paulie Phonick wrote:
bduffy wrote:It's OK to mix music and religion as long as it doesn't sound like it.
Agreed. As long as it really really doesn't sound like it ;)
Yeah, or else you'll sound like this:

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Or any number of the pre 20th century greats.

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To me as a Christian this statement doesn't mean: you may only make music about God/Jesus with this synth. Paul kindly asks you not to make music that's explicitly against God (probably he thought of Black Metal etc.). Not many people could use this synth if it was as rigidly meant as some of you interpret it. I know (and I see from the forum posts) that there aren't (m)any Christians out there. Paul surely knows that too.
Anyone who is a real Christian cares about and for other people. But I can only speak for myself: I have to accept that people don't believe in Jesus and think I'm crazy, retarded or whatever, still I may state my creed and tell people what I strongly believe to be the truth. My hope is that the word "will fall on good soil, where it produces a crop- a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown." (Matthew 13,8; parable of the sower, if you mind to read it: www.bibleserver.com).

P.S.: Btw. - I don't listen to 'Christian' music privately either.
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Honestly some of the most scary and horrific art and music seems to have come out of the Catholic Church of the past. Some of those chants and mantras sound very evil to my ears...
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>>Surely, but regardless of the origin, nowadays religion hardly ever makes people produce unique and original works of art. Maybe it's no longer inspiring enough? (In the end, how long can you take inspiration from the same bunch of ideas?)

True, but most secular music nowadays sucks as well. 95% of everything is crap.

I can't think of any religious music I've liked since Bob Dylan did his religious albums, I guess.

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dreamtheater wrote: Anyone who is a real Christian cares about and for other people.
Does this statement imply that others, like me, don't?

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The idea that I'm asked by the developer of any kind of software to do or not do something with it is disturbing and quite provoking.
I'm all for respecting people's life choices, but that works better as a two-way affair.
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