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IIRs wrote:
jens wrote: 'yes' or 'no'? You already said yes so what's right then - can you draw smooth tempo-envelopes with editable curves in Tracktion like you can in eXT or can you not? Yes or no? There's only one answer possible me thinks... :?
The answer is no: why do you want to? I used to hate dealing with tempo changes via a graph in cubase, it was akward and unintuitive and the curves that "looked right" rarely sounded it.. in Tracktion you press one button to get a smooth ramp from one tempo to another, what could be simpler and more effective?
in eXT it's just as easy as in Tracktion but nonetheless it's way more flexible (in Tracktion it's fixed to a linear ramp which you have in eXT by default as well) - so I rest my case now...

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Ding ding, round 2.

I can copy and paste a track in Tracktion, complete with all its MIDI clips, its plug-in synth and a whole chain of FX, with all their parameter settings intact.. I do that with a single cntrl+c / cntrl+v operation. Would you care to describe the steps required to acheive the same in eXT?

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IIRs wrote: Except the single most important thing: inspire me to make music :lol:

I have the inspiration within myself thus I do not need a computer-programme for it - the programme is ionly need to turn this inspiration into a result.

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jens wrote:so I rest my case now...
Its not all that long ago you were arguing that eXT's complete lack of any tempo mapping was insignificant! Fanboy!! :hihi:

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IIRs wrote:Ding ding, round 2.

I can copy and paste a track in Tracktion, complete with all its MIDI clips, its plug-in synth and a whole chain of FX, with all their parameter settings intact.. I do that with a single cntrl+c / cntrl+v operation. Would you care to describe the steps required to acheive the same in eXT?
right-click the track header and select 'duplicate' from the context-menu

(if it's a midi track the plugins aren't duplicated though to save resources)

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jens wrote: (if it's a midi track the plugins aren't duplicated though to save resources)
So, please describe the steps required to create an identical copy of the first Synth / FX chain, with all the same parameters. So far we have done a similar amount of work, but you have only duplicated the MIDI..

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IIRs wrote:
jens wrote:so I rest my case now...
Its not all that long ago you were arguing that eXT's complete lack of any tempo mapping was insignificant! Fanboy!! :hihi:
a small reminder: I wasn't the one who mentioned it for the first time in this thread. (and besides I never said it's insignificant and eXT supports tepo.changes for quite some time anyway)

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IIRs wrote:
jens wrote: (if it's a midi track the plugins aren't duplicated though to save resources)
So, please describe the steps required to create an identical copy of the first Synth / FX chain, with all the same parameters. So far we have done a similar amount of work, but you have only duplicated the MIDI..
what for should I want this? :shock:

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So how do you use ghost clips in Tracktion then?

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jens wrote:
a small reminder: I wasn't the one who mentioned it for the first time in this thread. (and besides I never said it's insignificant and eXT supports tepo.changes for quite some time anyway)
I fired up the demo when I brought it up to see if it had appeared.. buggered if I can find it anywhere! It's specific to the sequencer then I take it..? doesn't affect anything in the modular area..? oh dear :hihi:

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jens wrote:So how do you use ghost clips in Tracktion then?
You get on with making music and wait patiently for the next version (or maybe the one after that) :hihi:

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IIRs wrote:doesn't affect anything in the modular area..? oh dear :hihi:
dunno... :? - as I said before I do not use the main-area... :shrug:

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IIRs wrote:
jens wrote:So how do you use ghost clips in Tracktion then?
You get on with making music and wait patiently for the next version (or maybe the one after that) :hihi:
so you think chances are Tracktion will have ghost-clips in two or three years as well? :o - sounds good! 8)

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jens wrote:
IIRs wrote:doesn't affect anything in the modular area..? oh dear :hihi:
dunno... :? - as I said before I do not use the main-area... :shrug:
Tracktion's built in modular environment is one of its big selling points (for me at least) Filters in racks are fed correct tempo information. ;)

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jens wrote:
IIRs wrote:
jens wrote:So how do you use ghost clips in Tracktion then?
You get on with making music and wait patiently for the next version (or maybe the one after that) :hihi:
so you think chances are Tracktion will have ghost-clips in two or three years as well? :o - sounds good! 8)
Its not a deal-breaker for me. :shrug: I'm still waiting for your description of duplicating a synth / FX chain.. maybe its just very long and complex and taking you a while to compose? :P

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